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Title: Luongo: No One Has Really Grokked How Big The Suez/Houthi Gambit Is
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Published: Dec 23, 2023
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2023-12-23 09:51:41 by Horse
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Comments: 14

"I don’t see how the US avoids the Thucydides Trap here..."

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Thucydides Trap means war is inevitable as a rising power challenges the dominant Empire.

Yemen shot down a $30 million CIA Reaper drone with a cheap missile. America could not invade Yemen and defeat them.

The Hamas war was designed to force Israeli to act like the thugs they are. The Muslim governments were willing to sell out the Palestinians for Trump's Abraham Accords. But over 90% of all Muslims are angry with their governments for doing nothing to stop this Israeli Genocide.

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#3. To: Horse (#0)

Israel basically threatened the US by saying if we didn't do anything about the Houthi's they would. Would Israel actually nuke Yemen? Because there isn't really anything else they could do about them.

Israel does have some subs but I don't think they are capable of land attacks.

Pinguinite  posted on  2023-12-23   11:26:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

Far too easy to mine those waters and do it on a budget, heck Houthis could get China to supply them for free. Then watch crude prices soar.

ghostrider  posted on  2023-12-23   15:30:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: ghostrider (#4)

Mining would be considered reckless and a danger to all shipping, and the Houthi's apparently are only targeting Israeli shipping right now. And sea mines would probably be relatively easy to destroy anyway.

Pinguinite  posted on  2023-12-23   15:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Pinguinite (#5)

And sea mines would probably be relatively easy to destroy anyway.

One needs to find them first US side scan sonar can not and every boat is a mine sweeper, once.

ghostrider  posted on  2023-12-23   19:07:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: ghostrider (#7)

Some sea drones could be made for the task. Something with a magnetic or acoustic sensor and maybe capable of submerging. Just motor it around, either automously or by remote control and bang into the targets until they detonate. Would be an interesting engineering project. Though if any US defense contractors make it they will probably end up costing $4.3 million each.

Pinguinite  posted on  2023-12-23   19:12:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: Pinguinite (#8)

The contact mines of WWI and WWII are long past, though a mine made by the USSR in 1943 cracked the Sammual B Roberts in twain. if your influence mine sweeping signals; magnetic, seismic, pressure or acoustic (or any combination of any/all) is out of wack the mine will shut down for a predetermined amount of time rendering continued sweeping a waste of resources.

Moored mines today tend to be short tethered and self rising some with rocket assist and would have already damaged the vessel before they even knew of its presence.

Bottom mines bury quickly making detection very difficult.

It is not the explosion that damages the vessel, it is the gas bubble created by the explosion that creates a void under the vessel which in sense falls 20 or so feet trying to find water to support its mass.

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