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Title: FedNow FAQs: What The Fed’s New Instant Payments System Is—And Is Not
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URL Source: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/pers ... dnow-faqs/#What%20Is%20Fednow?
Published: Jun 30, 2023
Author: Rachel Witkowski
Post Date: 2023-07-02 16:24:16 by BTP Holdings
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FedNow FAQs: What The Fed’s New Instant Payments System Is—And Is Not

by Rachel Witkowski

Editor Doug Whiteman

Editor Updated: Jun 30, 2023, 1:19pm

Editorial Note: We earn a commission from partner links on Forbes Advisor. Commissions do not affect our editors' opinions or evaluations. FedNow FAQs: What The Fed’s New Instant Payments System Is—And Is Not Getty The Federal Reserve plans to roll out its long-anticipated faster payments system, called FedNow, in late July. This will be the first government-created platform to help your bank transfer money in real time. It’s similar to what the private sector has already created through payment apps like Venmo and Cash App that send funds almost instantly but outside of bank accounts.

FedNow has been years in the making. Its potential impact on the global banking industry—with thousands of financial institutions able to access the system—has generated not only praise but also concerns and confusion about what FedNow will actually do. So let’s set the record straight.

What Is FedNow?

FedNow is the first U.S. government-created and -backed portal allowing banks to send and receive funds almost instantly.

The Fed already has a payments portal but it doesn’t operate in real time, unlike Venmo, Cash App and other money transfer apps that allow users to instantly send money between app accounts. But to receive money in your bank account—whether from a check, direct deposit or payments app—you may have to wait a few business days, or bide your time over holidays or weekends.

When FedNow launches, you’ll be able to make payments—say, on your mortgage—ideally within seconds. You’ll be able to send funds on the due date rather than having to plan several days out for an online payment to clear, or up to a week for a check to be processed.

Business owners will be able to send and receive invoice payments in real time online.

Will FedNow Replace Cash?

No, the FedNow system won’t replace the dollar, or digital currency for that matter. Think of it as a platform that will transfer your dollar online, the same way popular money apps transfer funds. The promise of FedNow is that it will allow financial institutions to make those transfers happen between bank accounts, and in the blink of an eye.

And while there have been claims on YouTube and TikTok and other social media that FedNow will replace the dollar with a new digital currency, these claims are false.

As the Fed puts it, “The FedNow Service is neither a form of currency nor a step toward eliminating any form of payment, including cash.”

Will FedNow Create a Digital Currency?

Critics have speculated that FedNow will create a digital currency, but the Fed has tried to dispel this false assumption by flatly saying, “FedNow is not related to a digital currency.”

Part of the confusion stems from separate discussions on whether the Fed should create what’s called a central bank digital currency (CBDC). The Fed has clarified that it has made no decision on issuing a CBDC, and that it would “only proceed with the issuance of a CBDC with an authorizing law.”

Issuing a CBDC is “something we would certainly need congressional approval for,” Fed Chair Jerome Powell told the House Financial Services Committee in March.

Countries including the Bahamas, China, India and Nigeria have launched CBDCs, and more than 100 other nations are exploring the idea, according to the international policy think tank the Atlantic Council.

Some countries are looking at whether a central bank digital currency could be a safer, faster way of transferring funds between banks. Others are considering whether to offer a CBDC as fiat money for the public, with the accounts held at a central or commercial bank.

Does FedNow Replace Money Apps like Venmo and Cash App?

The Fed has made clear that FedNow is not intended to kill or replace other money transfer options like Venmo, Cash App, PayPal or Zelle. Rather, it is meant to work alongside the current systems built by the private sector.

But FedNow could be a game changer because thousands of banks already using the Fed’s current, slower payments system may see FedNow as a safe and faster option that has government backing. There are 57 organizations that have adopted the new program and become certified as of June 29, the Fed said in a press release.

There already is a Real-Time Payments (RTP) network, a private service launched in 2017 and used by more than 100 financial institutions to offer instant funds transfers. Zelle is the only app-based payments system that operates within the RTP network. That’s why you might see Zelle’s service offered directly when you log into your bank or credit union.

The financial institutions using the RTP Network can also opt into the FedNow system.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Good, this is WAY past time.

“ On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. ” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2023-07-02   17:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

Good, this is WAY past time.

I made a deposit at local bank using two checks. The bank accepted the checks. I used their bank debit card and bought iTunes gift cards at Wal Mart. Both checks bounced like rubber balls. The account was overdrawn by $2,000.

They wrote off the debt. This collection agency picked it up. They called my cell number and the guy said, "Let's talk about this money you owe."

I said, "What? Who is this? I don't know what you are talking about." Then I hung up.

They record those calls and if you admit to owing money, they've got you. They are not the original creditor and have no claim unless you admit you owe the debt. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-07-02   17:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#0) (Edited)

can't believe anyone would believe anything coming out of that serpent's mouth.

"The Federal Reserve often referred to as “the Fed” is the central bank of the United States. Congress created the Fed in 1913 to help promote a safe and sound monetary and financial system for our nation."

FAIL.

Congressman McFadden on the Federal Reserve Corporation

Remarks in Congress

AN ASTOUNDING EXPOSURE...

Louis T. McFadden's Speech In the House of Representatives
10 June 1932

It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford

Mr. Chairman, at the present session of Congress we have been dealing with emergency situations. We have been dealing with the effect of things rather than with the cause of things. In this particular discussion I shall deal with some of the causes that lead up to these proposals. There are underlying principles which are responsible for conditions such as we have at the present time and I shall deal with one of these in particular which is tremendously important in the consideration that you are now giving to this bill.

Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board has cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal Reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime.

These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia and thus drove a wedge between the Allies in the World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian revolution and they placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun the breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. ....

www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden_speech_1932.html

more mcfadden speech...

"...In eighteen years that have passed since Senator Lodge wrote that letter of warning all of his predictions have come true. The Government is in the banking business as never before. Against its will it has been made the backer of horsethieves and card sharps, bootleggers, smugglers, speculators, and swindlers in all parts of the world. Through the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks the riffraff of every country is operating on the public credit of this United States Government. Meanwhile, and on account of it, we ourselves are in the midst of the greatest depression we have ever known. Thus the menace to our prosperity, so feared by Senator Lodge, has indeed struck home. From the Atlantic to the Pacific our country has been ravaged and laid waste by the evil practices of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks and the interests which control them. At no time in our history has the general welfare of the people of the United States been at a lower level or the mind of the people so filled with despair.

Recently in one of our States 60,000 dwelling houses and farms were brought under the hammer in a single day. According to the Rev. Father Charles E. Coughlin, who has lately testified before a committee of this House, 71,000 houses and farms in Oakland County, Michigan, have been sold and their erstwhile owners dispossessed. Similar occurrences have probably taken place in every county in the United States. The people who have thus been driven out are the wastage of the Federal Reserve act. They are the victims of the dishonest and unscrupulous Federal Reserve Board and Federal Reserve banks. *** Their children are the new slaves of the auction blocks in the revival here of the institution of human slavery. ((( https://stopthepirates.blogspot.com/2021/07/when-birth-certificate-is-registered-in.html ))).

In 1913, before the Senate Banking and Currency Committee, Mr. Alexander Lassen made the following statement:

But the whole scheme of the Federal Reserve bank with its commercial-paper basis is an impractical, cumbersome machinery, is simply a cover, to find a way to secure the privilege of issuing money and to evade payment of as much tax upon circulation as possible, and then control the issue and maintain, instead of reduce, interest rates. It is a system that, if inaugurated, will prove to the advantage of the few and the detriment of the people of the United States. It will mean continued shortage of actual money and further extension of credits; for when there is a lack of real money people have to borrow credit to their cost.

A few days before the Federal Reserve act was passed Senator Elihu Root denounced the Federal Reserve bill as an outrage on our liberties and made the following prediction: "Long before we wake up from our dreams of prosperity through an inflated currency, our gold, which alone could have kept us from catastrophe, will have vanished and no rate of interest will tempt it to return."

If ever a prophecy came true, that one did. It was impossible, however, for those luminous and instructed thinkers to control the course of events. On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve bill became law, and that night Colonel House wrote to his hidden master in Wall Street as follows:

I want to say a word of appreciation to you for the silent but no doubt effective work you have done in the interest of currency legislation and to congratulate you that the measure has finally been enacted into law. We all know that an entirely perfect bill, satisfactory to everybody, would have been an impossibility, and I feel quite certain that unless the President had stood as firm as he did we should likely have had no legislation at all. The bill is a good one in many respects; anyhow good enough to start with and to let experience teach us in what direction it needs perfection, which in due time we shall then get. In any event you have personally good reason to feel gratified with what has been accomplished.

The words "unless the President had stood as firm as he did we should likely have had no legislation at all," were a gentle reminder that it was Colonel House himself, the "holy monk," who had kept the President firm. The foregoing letter affords striking evidence of the manner in which the predatory interests then sought to control the Government of the United States by surrounding the Executive with the personality and the influence of a financial Judas. Left to itself and to the conduct of its own legislative functions without pressure from the Executive, the Congress would not have passed the Federal Reserve act. According to Colonel House, and since this was his report to his master, we may believe it to be true, the Federal Reserve act was passed because Wilson stood firm; in other words because Wilson was under the guidance and control of the most ferocious usurers in New York through their hireling, House. The Federal Reserve act became law the day before Christmas Eve in the year 1913, and shortly afterwards the German international bankers, Kuhn, Loeb and Co., sent one of their partners here to run it. ..."

=======================

excerpts SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BY EUSTACE MULLINS (R.I.P.)

"...Colonel Edward Mandell House* was referred to by Rabbi Stephen Wise in his autobiography, Challenging Years as "the unofficial Secretary of State". House noted that he and Wilson knew that in passing the Federal Reserve Act, they had created an instrument more powerful than the Supreme Court. The Federal Reserve Board of Governors actually comprised a Supreme Court of Finance, and there was no appeal from any of their rulings...."

"...Congressman Lindbergh said on that historic day, to the House:

"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed. The trusts will soon realize that they have gone too far even for their own good. The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power. This they will be able to do by taking control of Congress. Wall Streeters could not cheat us if you Senators and Representatives did not make a humbug of Congress. . . . If we had a people’s Congress, there would be stability.

The greatest crime of Congress is its currency system. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill. The caucus and the party bosses have again operated and prevented the people from getting the benefit of their own government."..."

"...The "unprecedented speed" with which the Federal Reserve Act had been passed by Congress during what became known as "the Christmas massacre" had one unforeseen aspect. Woodrow Wilson was taken unaware, as he, like many others, had been assured the bill would not come up for a vote until after Christmas. Now he refused to sign it, because he objected to the provisions for the selection of Class B. Directors. William L. White relates in his biography of Bernard Baruch that Baruch, a principal contributor to Wilson’s campaign fund, was stunned when he was informed that Wilson refused to sign the bill. He hurried to the White House and assured Wilson that this was a minor matter, which could be fixed up later through "administrative processes". The important thing was to get the Federal Reserve Act signed into law at once. With this reassurance,*** Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers...."

http://whale.to/b/m_ch_3.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2023-07-03   14:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#1)

Good, this is WAY past time.

I can't imagine anything the government does as being good.

I might need a special briefing on this issue.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2023-07-03   14:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

I believe that it means we the customers will have immediate access to our funds as soon as they are deposited.

“ On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. ” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2023-07-03   16:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#5)

I believe that it means we the customers will have immediate access to our funds as soon as they are deposited.

For me that's only an issue with my credit union, they wait for the checks to clear. Chase runs checks through their little machine, and the results were instantaneous, or they used to be.

I don't trust anything with "Fed" in the name.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2023-07-03   16:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#6)

I don't trust anything with "Fed" in the name.

When I lived in Illinois, after the Bulls won one of their Championships, these Mexicans that lived out back were lit and came flying around the corner and sideswiped the rear of my pickup.

I was on the throne and the neighbor was hollering, "They just hit your truck!"

I wiped and ran out there. They must have flattened their tire and went behind the pizza joint to change it. I caught them at the gas station on the corner and flagged down a County squad.

I told the black cop what happened. He walked up to the driver window and asked the Mexican behind the wheel, "Why didn't you stop?"

The Mexican said, "Oh, I don't know."

The cop said, "Now we're talking right." ROTFLOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-07-03   19:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All (#3)

Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board has cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

The FED has a nice scam going. They pay for the cost of printing the Notes and then loan them to the U.S. Government at Face Value plus interest.

The more $100s they print, the more money they make.

Last Fiscal year the FED printed over $6 Trillion dollars worth of Notes.

Can anyone say "inflation"? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-07-03   19:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings, All (#8)

Odious Debt

Posted by Marklar on February 13, 2010 at 7:24am

Refuse to Pay Government Debt Incurred for Unlawful and Oppressive Purposes,... It Is the Personal Debt of Those Who Ordered It to Be Incurred

By Washington's Blog

February 12, 2010 " Washington's Blog" - - There is an established legal principle that people should not have to repay their government's debt to the extent that it is incurred to launch aggressive wars or to oppress the people.

These "odious debts" are considered to be the personal debts of the tyrants who incurred them, rather than the country's debt.

Wikipedia gives a good overview of the principle:

In international law, odious debt is a legal theory which holds that the national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation, such as wars of aggression, should not be enforceable. Such debts are thus considered by this doctrine to be personal debts of the regime that incurred them and not debts of the state. In some respects, the concept is analogous to the invalidity of contracts signed under coercion.

The doctrine was formalized in a 1927 treatise by Alexander Nahum Sack, a Russian émigré legal theorist, based upon 19th Century precedents including Mexico's repudiation of debts incurred by Emperor Maximilian's regime, and the denial by the United States of Cuban liability for debts incurred by the Spanish colonial regime.

According to Sack:

When a despotic regime contracts a debt, not for the needs or in the interests of the state, but rather to strengthen itself, to suppress a popular insurrection, etc, this debt is odious for the people of the entire state. This debt does not bind the nation; it is a debt of the regime, a personal debt contracted by the ruler, and consequently it falls with the demise of the regime. The reason why these odious debts cannot attach to the territory of the state is that they do not fulfil one of the conditions determining the lawfulness of State debts, namely that State debts must be incurred, and the proceeds used, for the needs and in the interests of the State. Odious debts, contracted and utilised for purposes which, to the lenders' knowledge, are contrary to the needs and the interests of the nation, are not binding on the nation – when it succeeds in overthrowing the government that contracted them – unless the debt is within the limits of real advantages that these debts might have afforded. The lenders have committed a hostile act against the people, they cannot expect a nation which has freed itself of a despotic regime to assume these odious debts, which are the personal debts of the ruler.

Patricia Adams, executive director of Probe International (an environmental and public policy advocacy organisation in Canada), and author of Odious Debts: Loose Lending, Corruption, and the Third World's Environmental Legacy, has stated that:

by giving creditors an incentive to lend only for purposes that are transparent and of public benefit, future tyrants will lose their ability to finance their armies, and thus the war on terror and the cause of world peace will be better served.

A recent article by economists Seema Jayachandran and Michael Kremer has renewed interest in this topic. They propose that the idea can be used to create a new type of economic sanction to block further borrowing by dictators.

Jubilee USA notes that creditors may lose their rights to repayment of odious debts:

Odious debt is an established legal principle. Legally, debt is to be considered odious if the government used the money for personal purposes or to oppress the people. Moreover, in cases where borrowed money was used in ways contrary to the people’s interest, with the knowledge of the creditors, the creditors may be said to have committed a hostile act against the people. Creditors cannot legitimately expect repayment of such debts.

The United States set the first precedent of odious debt when it seized control of Cuba from Spain. Spain insisted that Cuba repay the loans made to them by Spain. The U.S. repudiated (refused to pay) that debt, arguing that the debt was imposed on Cuba by force of arms and served Spain’s interest rather than Cuba’s, and that the debt therefore ought not be repaid. This precedent was upheld by international law in Great Britain v. Costa Rica (1923) when money was put to use for illegitimate purposes with full knowledge of the lending institution; the resulting debt was annulled.

The launch of the Iraq war was an unlawful war of aggression. It was based on false premises (weapons of mass destruction and a connection between Iraq and 9/11; see this, this, this, this, this and this). Therefore, the trillions in debts incurred in fighting that war are odious debts which the people might lawfully refuse to pay for.

The Bush and Obama administrations have also oppressed the American people through spying on us - even before 9/11 (confirmed here and here) - harassment of innocent grandmothers and other patriotic Americans criticizing government action, and other assaults on liberty and the rule of law. See this. The monies borrowed to finance these oppressive activities are also odious debts.

The government has also given trillions in bailouts, loans, guarantees and other perks to the too big to fails. These funds have not helped the American people. For example, the giant banks are still not loaning. They have solely gone into speculative investments and to line the pockets of the muckety-mucks in the form of bonuses. PhD economist Dean Baker said that the true purpose of the bank rescues is "a massive redistribution of wealth to the bank shareholders and their top executives". Two leading IMF officials, the former Vice President of the Dallas ..., and the the head of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City have all said that the United States is controlled by an oligarchy. PhD economist Michael Hudson says that the financial “parasites” have killed the American economy, and they are "sucking as much money out" as they can before "jumping ship". These are odious debts.

Bush, Cheney, Paulson, Geithner, Summers and others who ordered that these debts be incurred must be held personally liable for them. We the American people are not responsible to creditors - such as China, Saudi Arabia - who have knowingly financed these illegal and oppressive activities which have not benefited the American people, but solely the handful of corrupt politicians who authorized them.

Note:

Of course, many mom and pop American investors hold U.S. treasury bonds as well. The size of their haircuts on U.S. bonds might - under a strict reading of the principle of odious debt - depend on whether or not they knew of the unlawful and oppressive activities of the U.S. government. Arguably, small individual investors tend to be much less knowledgeable about such matters than other countries such as China or Saudi Arabia.

12160.info/profiles/blogs/odious-debt

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ALERT

Noticed this at the above site, SOTN has another (REAL??):

WARNING!!!

I am a Lurker, and will get straight to the point. This is not a "HAPPENINGH1 !" Thread, this is 100% real. On July 4th, or 5th the United States will bomb the Zaporizhzhia power plant, located 91 KB JPG near the city of Enerhodar in southern Ukraine. I don't care anymore, and will be 100% honest with you guys. I am a Marine Corps infantry veteran who is now working for the United States Government in electronic espionage, and have been for the last five years.

The Ukrainian government, and the United States government are working together in order to bomb the Zaporizhzhia plant, and blame the nuclear meltdown on Russia, thus giving us immediate authority to use tactical nuclear warheads on Moscow, Novosibirsk, Kazan, and Omsk. This will trigger the Russians to throw everything they have back at the U.S. Thunderstorms are likely in Enerhodar, Ukraine on the 4th, so that is the only reason it may be pushed to the 5th. You have 72 hours maximum to prepare for nuclear war (hopefully 96 if the Russians are slow to respond), and we have all been told to stay home, and prepare. We have been given $15K bonuses each to buy survival supplies if necessary, and our offices in Yorkville, Virginia have been closed down permanently, so this is a define, not a conspiracy theory. Please prepare, guys. I love you all, and I will happily reply to any questions you have.

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2023-07-04   12:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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