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Title: Zelensky plans to mobilise all Russian-speaking people to get rid of them on battlefield
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URL Source: https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/154909-ukraine_mobilisation/
Published: Nov 28, 2022
Author: Mike Rivero
Post Date: 2022-11-28 12:25:52 by Horse
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Views: 687
Comments: 66

Zelensky's decree on mobilization does not apply to Ukraine's western regions. For example, only 40 men were called up in Ivano-Frankivsk, and 30 — in Lviv.

It is mainly Russian-speaking citizens that go to the front as a result of the total mobilization in south-eastern Ukraine. Kyiv considers them to be potentially dangerous thus tries to destroy them in the hostilities, the source told the news agency.

On November 16, the Ukrainian Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) extended martial law and general mobilization in Ukraine for 90 days, until February 19, 2023.

Anna Malyar, deputy head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence, said that the authorities of the republic did not plan to conduct a new wave of mobilization, since "there is no need for new soldiers, and the situation at the front remains stable." She did not rule out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine may need more people in the future.

On November 17, it was reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were planning to mobilize citizens of military age in Kherson and on the right bank of the Dnieper.

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#27. To: Horse (#17) (Edited)

Jews killed JFK

Are you referring to JFKs adamant stance that Israel should not join the nuclear club?

Smart people know about Dimona and the nuclear experimentation there.

I am sure Merdechai Vanunu does not regret blowing the whistle on Dimona. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-01   18:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BTP Holdings (#26)

I'm sure they're regular storm troopers with Fanta for their official drink ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-12-01   20:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BTP Holdings (#26)

So you suggest the Jew Zelensky has a horde of Nazis waiting in the wings? Really? ;)

Are you totally unfamiliar with Ukraine?

Western Ukraine sided with Hitler in WWII.

The US State Department funded and supported the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine in 2014 by various "neo-Nazi" groups such as Right Sector and Svoboda.

Today they celebrate a WWII Nazi affiliated war criminal, Stepan Bandera, as their national hero.

They have had Nazi militia such as Azov Battalion torturing, terrorizing, and killing ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine since 2014.

Get your head out of CNN and Fox and do some research.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   22:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BTP Holdings (#26) (Edited)



Edit: Corrected an image size that was causing the page width to break


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   22:42:19 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BTP Holdings (#26) (Edited)

Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   22:52:08 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: NeoconsNailed (#25)

What did you mean by closet tiny hat?

You seriously should ask your handlers what it means.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   22:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BTP Holdings (#27)

14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Ukrainian)

WAFFEN-SS DIVISION "GALICIA" — A UKRAINIAN MILITARY UNIT WITHIN THE WEHRMACHT


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   23:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BTP Holdings, All (#26)

Ukraine's national hero, Stepan Bandera, led the OUN.

Stepan Bandera and the OUN

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

EXCLUSIVE! UNEARTHED CIA FILES ON UKRAINIAN NAZI ICON STEPAN BANDERA: HITLER’S SPY, TERRORIST, TYRANT, ASSET


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   23:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: BTP Holdings (#27)

The CIA deep roots in Ukrainian OUN


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-01   23:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#32)

That is really so cheap. You seriously should grow up.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-12-01   23:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#35)

Democrats impeach Trump for withholding arms to Neo-Nazis in Ukraine

How and why the U.S. government aided a coup led by neo-Nazis in Ukraine

An appeal to Canada’s parliament: Visit to Ottawa of Andriy Parubiy, leader of Ukrainian neo-Nazi party


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-02   0:22:20 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: NeoconsNailed (#36) (Edited)

The work of your buddies back in 2014...

Documenting war crimes in East Ukraine. A whole family massacred in attack on Donetsk suburbs. WARNING for horrifying images!

Odessa, 2 May 2014-2015: Anniversary of a Massacre, in Memory of Martyrs [+Photo/Video collection]

The Odessa Massacre


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-02   0:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: NeoconsNailed (#36)

You in this picture?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-02   0:37:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#33)

America Backed Ukraine Neo- Nazis In the Immediate Wake of World War II


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-02   1:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#39)

Yes! And that's good ol' Vladek, Svalomar, Einar, Anatoly and Bohuslav! Where'd you get it?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2022-12-02   1:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: FormerLurker (#29) (Edited)

CNN and Fox

I really do not read from those two sources.

Plus 2014 was a time when I was still recovering from the meningitis which wiped out so much of my memories. Lucky some of them are returning though, which is positive.

I was a bad ass when working concert security in Chicago back in 80s and 90s. It didn't pay enough to get my ass kicked and I wouldn't let anyone do it to me. We all carried handcuffs and we used them.

We worked the old Aragon Ballroom in Chicago. There were so many fights it was called the "Brawlroom". As Security you had to jump in and break up those fights. You needed to be ready since sometimes they would rurn on you for breaking up their fight.

When I worked those shows there were chairs. Now I hear no more chairs and Security does not care what goes on. I bet there is big mosh pit too. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-04   13:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#33) (Edited)

The Waffen SS members were not native Germans. Only native Germans could be in Wehrmacht.

I worked with a Sudeten German. When Germany annexed the Sudetwnland, he volunteered for the Waffen SS.

His father protested to his camp Commander he was being treated too harshly in boot camp. He was arrested as a dissenter and sent to the camps in Germany. The last I heard his son had found no trace of him. Many people disappeared in those camps.

Old Kraus is likely dead a long time since moat of those old timers are long gone.

BTW, he lived in Skokie, Illinois. That is where many Jews lived before they moved up and out. Now a lot of Hindus in Skokie. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-04   15:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: BTP Holdings (#43) (Edited)

Doesn't change the fact that the Ukrainians of western Ukraine sided with Hitler and Nazi Germany, and their OUN goons made the German Nazis look like girl scouts in comparison.

They did the most sadistic, horrific things imaginable to innocent men, women, and children, mostly the later two, including little babies.

You should watch the Oliver Stone film, Ukraine on Fire, which gives a very good run up to the 2014 Maidan revolution orchestrated by Obama's CIA. It explains what's happened in the past, and how it's part of what's going on today. I've posted it here on this thread, and made it a separate post on its own thread.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-04   16:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FormerLurker (#38)

During WW II the Einsatzgruppen were the German rear guard. They were shooting Jews in back of head and dumping the bodies in ditches.

Yo understand why the Wehrmacht treated Jews in this manner, you must realize that Grynspahn, a Polish Jew murdered the Deputy German Ambassador to France in Paris in 1938.

This caused the pogrom of Krystallnacht when windows of Jewish shops were broken out and Jewish Synogogues were burned.

Afterward all Jews were forced to wear a yellow Star of David on their clothing.

I am sure you know these stories. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-04   20:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: BTP Holdings (#45) (Edited)

The matter of Ukrainian Nazis has nothing to do with that.

Do yourself a favor if you wish to understand what's happened in Ukraine, watch the Oliver Stone video.

All the links I've posted for you give further documentation and history.

That's if you actually care about the topic.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-04   22:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: BTP Holdings (#45)

BTW BTP, the overwhelming majority of the 10s of thousands of Polish villagers that were butchered by followers of Stepan Bandera, Ukraine's modern day national hero, were Catholic.

So your tales of Jews has no bearing in any of this, although the OUN did butcher a lot of them too.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-04   23:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BTP Holdings (#45)

From Volhynia Massacres: Polish Sorrow, Ukranian Denial

An OUN order from 1944 stated with bloodthirsty vehemence:

Liquidate all Polish traces. Destroy all walls in the Catholic Church and other Polish prayer houses. Destroy orchards and trees in the courtyards so that there will be no trace that someone lived there… Pay attention to the fact that when something remains that is Polish, then the Poles will have pretensions to our land.

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-05   17:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#47) (Edited)

tales of Jews

I do not deny there were many Catholics butchered in Poland.

Do you recall the Jews that were holed up in the Warsaw Ghetto?

How about the Einstzgruppen, the German rear guard, who were shooting Jews in back of the head and dumping the bodies in ditches?

I recall something written by a Lutheran priest, "First they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew."

That writing goes on and covers other ethnicities. It shows the systematic persecution of ethnic minorities in Nazi Germany. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-06   17:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker (#33) (Edited)

Waffen SS

There is something you do not understand about how the German military was structured.

Only native Germans could be in the Wehrmacht. Men of other nationalities could only be in the Waffen SS.

Hence, we have units such as the Wallonian Division who were French speaking Belgians.

Leon Degrelle was their commanding officer.

He escaped to Spain at the end of the war and Franco resisted calls to extradite him to Belgium for war crimes. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-08   6:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: BTP Holdings (#49) (Edited)

You appear to be fixated on Germans. I'm not talking about Germans, this entire thread is about UKRAINE.

Specifically, I mentioned the involvement of UKRAINIAN Nazis in modern day Ukraine, NOT German Nazis.

You seemed to react as if I had made some outlandish claim, something that has to be impossible because Zelensky is a "Jew".

Sure, Ukrainian Nazis might have butchered their share of Ukrainian Jews during WWII, but they REALLY hated the Poles and the Russians. They probably went along with the massacre of Jews just to please their German masters.

All of the links I've provided explains the historical facts regarding what they did, and who they did it to. Their most sadistic and horrific acts appear to be against the Poles(mostly Catholic), from what I've been able to find.

What I've also provided is the evidence that the CIA had hid and protected the Ukrainian WWII Nazis/OUN/UDA after the war and utilized them to conduct espionage against the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

I've also provided the concrete evidence that far from being a sad part of history that no longer exists in today's world, these groups and their followers flourish in modern day Ukraine, that's why they celebrate Stepan Bandera, the war criminal who led the OUN in WWII, as their national hero.

They might go under different names, but they are still the same as they were back then.

Get Germany out of your head and look at UKRAINE, and don't act as if none of this is real, or limited to what the GERMAN Nazis did to people during WWII.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-08   16:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: FormerLurker (#51)

I am well aware of many historical aspects of the WW II Era.

Germany knew the Soviets were massing troops for an attack on Germany which went against the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact

Gernany's Blitzkrieg annihilated the massing Soviet troops.

That agreement is what allowed Germany to train its Luftwaffe pilots right under the noses of the French and British. Since the training was not done on German soil there was no violation of the Versailles Treaty.

Hitler had a great sense of irony. He forced the French to sign the Armistice in the same rail car Germany signed the Versailles Treaty. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-09   16:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: BTP Holdings (#52)

Germany, Germany, Germany, Germany

What part of the fact that this thread is about Ukraine do you fail to comprehend?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-09   16:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FormerLurker (#53)

It seems to me that you might have had distant Polish relatives in that area during WW II. Otherwise, why would you be stirring up such a fuss over what was clearly an ethnic cleansing at that time? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-09   20:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: BTP Holdings (#54)

It seems to me that you might have had distant Polish relatives in that area during WW II.

Wrong.

Otherwise, why would you be stirring up such a fuss over what was clearly an ethnic cleansing at that time? ;)

Because you seemingly have no clue as to what the situation is in Ukraine TODAY, and acted as if it were impossible for the Ukrainian government to be controlled by Nazis or partake in genocidal activities, simply because the guy playing the part of president there happens to be a Jew.

As I tried to inform you, they lionize and celebrate as their national hero a WWII war criminal responsible for leading a sadistic bunch of madmen during the war in inhuman acts of pure evil against women and children.

And they HAVE been committing "ethnic cleansing" against the population of Eastern Ukraine (Donbass, Lugansk), since the US orchestrated the overthrow of the Ukrainian government back in 2014.

THAT is why the Russian Federation entered Ukraine this year in February, to protect and defend the population of Eastern Ukraine against the ongoing genocide perpetrated by Nazi militia such as the Azov Battalion.

Get it yet?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-10   20:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Have you got it yet? :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2022-12-10   20:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Dakmar (#56)

Yow, what is that noise??


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-10   20:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#57) (Edited)

LOL, art music band camp stuff. :)

I think Deerhoof is great, because they frighten the squares, kinda like Garcia and friends. :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2022-12-10   20:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#57)

Deerhoof - We Do Parties

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2022-12-10   20:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Dakmar (#58)

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2022-12-10   20:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Dakmar (#58)

I think this video more accurately reflects where we are today. I was listening to this stuff when I was 12.. :)


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-10   20:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: FormerLurker (#61)

I love Sabbath, I just was grooivng on Deerhoof tonight because they kind of remind me of Devo, lol. Are we not men? D-E-V-O :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2022-12-10   20:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Dakmar (#62)

You mean these guys?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2022-12-10   20:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FormerLurker (#63)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2022-12-10   20:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#55) (Edited)

ethnic cleansing

I know very well it was an ethnic cleansing back then. There have been quite a few ethnic cleansing in Europe over the centuries.

The first thing the Russians did was to take out the biolabs that were sent there from Ft. Deteick, Maryland. Then they secured the new nuclear site.

Thereafter, the provinces of Ukraine with majority Russian speaking citizens applied to Russia to join the Russian Federation.

My illness may have wiped out much of my memory, but current events are a different story.

I was a student of history by being an initial subscriber to The Barnes ReviewI. Harry Elmer Barnes was a historian and that is where the Barnes comes from in the title of the magazine. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2022-12-11   22:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Dakmar (#58)

they frighten the squares kinda like Garcia

Yeah, the Grateful Dead sure frightened a lot of squares.

We worked The Cure in Chicago. The saying we had was, "They are the sickness and we are the cure." ROTFLOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-01-05   19:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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