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Title: Are you invading, or just lost? Russian navy threatens to ram US warship ‘John McCain’ after it crosses border near Vladivostok
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URL Source: https://www.rt.com/russia/507633-navy-threat-warship-border/
Published: Nov 24, 2020
Author: Vitaly Ankov
Post Date: 2020-11-24 10:29:05 by Ada
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Views: 91
Comments: 14

A notorious US naval destroyer sparked a diplomatic incident on Tuesday morning after Russia claimed that it had launched an incursion into its territorial waters.

The USS John S McCain, a specialist combat ship designed to hunt submarines, was operating in the Sea of Japan (also called the East Sea), off the coast of the Russian Far Eastern capital, Vladivostok. Authorities say it was more than two kilometers inside Russia’s internationally recognized maritime border.

A statement from the Ministry of Defense in Moscow said that the vessel had “violated” Russian waters and was “warned of the unacceptability of its actions” by the Udaloy-class destroyer Admiral Vinogradov, which had been tailing it. The communiqué added that sailors had told the American ship of the “potential of resorting to ramming to force the trespasser out of the territory.” The US navy has not yet issued a response. Also on rt.com Russia’s naval reach extends with new African base: Putin signs off on building Red Sea hub in strategically vital Sudan Read more Sea change: Building a naval base in Sudan is the first crucial step in restoring Russia’s maritime power Sea change: Building a naval base in Sudan is the first crucial step in restoring Russia’s maritime power

This is not the first time that the USS John McCain has been involved in high-risk incidents at sea. In 2017, ten American sailors died after the vessel collided with a Liberian-flagged tanker, resulting in flooding and putting the warship out of action until October 2019. An investigation into that incident warned of an overly complex touch-screen system used to control the ship’s throttle, and a lack of training of its crew.

Named after naval pilot and Republican senator John McCain, who died in 2018, the ship has repeatedly been singled out for criticism by President Donald Trump. McCain himself had been one of Trump’s biggest critics, arguing that his 2016 election campaign had “fired up the crazies.” The Wall Street Journal reported in 2019 that White House aides had asked for the ship to be moved “out of sight” of the president on a trip to Japan in 2019, to avoid angering him.

On Tuesday afternoon, however, the commander of the US 7th Fleet claimed that the vessel had not been “expelled” from any nation’s territory, and had been conducting a so-called “Freedom of Navigation Operation.” In a statement, the American Navy went on to claim that “by conducting this operation, the United States demonstrated that these waters are not Russia’s territorial sea.” They argued that the disagreement arises from whether Peter the Great Bay can be considered “historic,” which would make it subject to different rules under international law, and therefore affects Russia’s sea border.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

By hook, crook, salvo or accident, DC is going to get us in serious trouble with one or both of the big two.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-11-24   10:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

I can tell you the future.

Biden presidency means gun confiscation and invasion by China. The democrats have been selling us out since 1992. When under their various administrations big corporations began outsourcing overseas to China in a big big way. 20 years ago I had a product I wanted to make in the states, and the banks said for me to go to China or get lost. I got lost.

The fix has been in for a long time and they have been undermining our sovereignty for about 97 years. First with the Federal Reserve, and the pending Chinese invasion coming soon.

You see, the Chinese have been building relocation camps in Canada, and building roads from Canada to the US. They own the majority of the factories in Detroit and own a lot of properties to house Chinese military as they start pumping out Chinese tanks.

I can tell you that within our lifetime the country will be broken up like a bad corporation and the power elite will never pay the price for their treason. We are a nation betrayed, and it’s coming sooner than later with this great “Reset” that was engineered decades ago.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2020-11-24   12:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: NeoconsNailed, Lod, BTP Holdings, noone222 (#1)

By hook, crook, salvo or accident, DC is going to get us in serious trouble with one or both of the big two.

Not really.

It is the militarys job to constantly assess the military capabilities of any and all POTENTIAL adversaries.

About 70 years ago I was fortunate enough to be on A-bomb crew whose target was Vladivostok. If need be we were to wipe it off the map. It was amazing what "intelligence" of the city was provided by Air Force, NSA and CIA.

Times change, equipment changes BUT THE PREPARATION FOR WAR NEVER CHANGES. Never.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-11-24   13:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

Sounds like you're a real fan :-s

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-11-24   15:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

How soon, Tommy? And is it only Dumborats that have sold us out? Nixon started it, amirite?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-11-24   15:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#4)

Sounds like you're a real fan :-s

War is about killing and or dying, or both. There is nothing funny, cute nor sarcastic about it.

I lost a brother and many comrades, they have been dead for a long time.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-11-24   16:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

So maybe war isn't such a hot idea, esp. when occurring in the continents our ancestors escaped to give us the safe life we have between two oceans.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-11-24   17:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#3)

War is the health of the state ~ Randolph Bourne

and yes, I had to research who coined the phrase

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-11-24   17:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada (#0)

Are you invading, or just lost?

That reminds me of what my doctor said a couple of years ago:

Do you know how the German army was able to invade Poland so easily?

-- They walked in backwards, and the Polaks thought they were leaving.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-11-24   17:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: StraitGate, Ada, 4um (#9)

Are you invading, or just lost?

No, that's not a pickle in my pocket.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-11-24   17:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#10)

No, that's not a pickle in my pocket.

Man is capable of great evil.

Hitler would not surrender to save millions of his own people. He was behind on atomic weapons but had he had them he would used them to kill all those that he hated.

Tojo would not surrender. Three months before Japan surrendered, American air force fire bombed Tokyo and in one night burned 100,000 Japanese to death. A million were made homeless. Tojo would not surrender.

Evil Americans? Hitler was at work on A bombs. Japan was trying to kill millions of Americans by spreading bubonic plague the length of California. Only our A bombs ended that terrible threat.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-11-24   18:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#3)

Times change, equipment changes BUT THE PREPARATION FOR WAR NEVER CHANGES. Never.

So would say the war mongers.


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2020-11-24   19:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IRTorqued (#12)

So would say the war mongers.

Have stood a few times at Gettysburg, where Lee ordered Pickett and Pettigrew to charge over an open field directly at Union lines.

The other Generals could not believe it and over 1000 Confederates died, FOR NOTHING.

Expending the lives of others is all too easy.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-11-24   19:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod, StraitGait (#10)

In a statement, the American Navy went on to claim that "by conducting this operation, the United States demonstrated that these waters are not Russia's territorial sea."

At least there's no He-said-she-said about where the US ship was.

Ada  posted on  2020-11-24   20:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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