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Title: Today in History: FDR Issues Executive Order Creating American Concentration Camps
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URL Source: https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/20 ... -american-concentration-camps/
Published: Feb 19, 2020
Author: Dave Benner
Post Date: 2020-02-20 18:55:57 by Anthem
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Views: 758
Comments: 28

On this date in 1942, Franklin Roosevelt signed the infamous executive order 9066, authorizing the War Department to establish military zones that would serve as internment camps for mostly Japanese and Italian Americans.

After the United States entered World War II, the president felt that the presence of foreign nationals could not be tolerated in time of war, and would produce seditious and rebellious behavior:

“Now, therefore, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States, and Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, I hereby authorize and direct the Secretary of War, and the Military Commanders whom he may from time to time designate, whenever he or any designated Commander deems such action necessary or desirable, to prescribe military areas in such places and of such extent as he or the appropriate Military Commander may determine, from which any or all persons may be excluded, and with respect to which, the right of any person to enter, remain in, or leave shall be subject to whatever restrictions the Secretary of War or the appropriate Military Commander may impose in his discretion.”

Under the policy, 120,000 people were summarily rounded up and placed into captivity, separated from their families, homes, property, and livelihood for long lengths of time.

Cruelly reminiscent of anti-Jewish programs enacted by the Third Reich in Germany, Roosevelt’s decree was a clear-cut violation of the Fifth Amendment guarantee to life, liberty, and property. The order was also imposed by executive decree, bypassing Congress and appearing as the command of an all-powerful monarch.

President Roosevelt engaged in efforts to relocate citizens by issuing a secondary decree, Executive Order 9102, which specifically established the War Relocation Authority. The new federal institution was bestowed the power to forcibly seize and relocate individuals into the camps.

Refusing to reverse this heartless transgression., the federal courts gave the policy legal credence. Demonstrating the complicity of the federal judiciary in the exploit, the court ruled that Roosevelt’s actions were wholly constitutional in the 1944 case of Korematsu v. United States.

The majority opinion, written by Justice Hugo Black, stated that the court was unable to conclude that it was beyond the war powers of Congress and the president to confine people of Japanese ancestry to the designated “war areas.” This assertion was made despite the fact that the Constitution confers no such power to either branch.

Nevertheless, Black wrote that the president’s new agency could not be reprimanded despite its loose criteria for determining whether individuals were “disloyal,” and thus subject to such exclusion, relocation, and confinement. In the judge’s estimation, internment was necessary to protect against means of unproven espionage. In considering the actions to intern citizens, Black wrote that “we cannot – by availing ourselves of the calm perspective of hindsight – now say that, at the time, these actions were unjustified.”

Justice Frank Murphy vehemently dissented to the opinion of the majority, and condemned “the abhorrent and despicable treatment of minority groups by the dictatorial tyrannies which this nation is now pledged to destroy.” Murphy correctly added that the exclusion policy went “over the very brink of constitutional power.”

Individuals must not be deprived of their rights, he wrote, despite the government’s concerns for security. Murphy recognized the reason for the Fifth Amendment’s existence and understood that a despotic condition would arise if the government ignored it. Without regard to Murphy’s warning, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the federal program by a margin of six to three – giving a judicial seal of approval for Roosevelt’s treacherous internment program.

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#1. To: Anthem (#0)

No one ever talks about the Germans who were put into camps in the US. Homes and businesses were taken and the Germans were sent to a camp in Texas, after the war, the doors were opened and the people had to find their own way back, when the japs were let out, they had buses take them to where ever they wanted.

Darkwing  posted on  2020-02-21   8:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Darkwing (#1)

No one ever talks about the Germans who were put into camps

Good point.

No one ever talks about it, least of all the Germans. Irrespective of which pack of thieves rules their old stomping grounds and inspite of whatever calamitites they may have personally suffered, Krauts pick themselves up, dust themselves off and go back to hitting it. They generally wind up back on top of things.

That is probably why a certain tribe has historically made a home amongst them. And also probably why their old international tongue bears such a pronounced resemblance to German.

randge  posted on  2020-02-21   9:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2)

We had strong dislike for FDR but there were some things he did right.

Japanese internment....

On Dec. 7,1941, the Niihau affair took place in Hawaii. A Japanese fighter landed on small island of Niihau in Hawaii. The pilot recruited local Japanese and took over the Island. A loyal Hawaiian native finally cut the pilots throat and ended the takeover. The military realized if Japanese landed in force many locals would join them.

So FDR DID HAVE AN INDICATION OF LOYALTY.

Next Europe...The Army knew they had 18 per cent of their invading force was made up of men of German descent. A concern.

The Italians...Locally we had large POW camp of Italian soldiers taken in North Africa....They were given passes to go into town to the movies. At end of war many refused to go back to Italy.

Sorry for the Japanese Americans? Not at all.

Niihau was proof of the disloyalty of many. The risk could not be taken.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   10:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

So FDR DID HAVE AN INDICATION OF LOYALTY.

Innaresting topic here. Your comments aroused my curiousity, and I just had to look this up in Wiki - which you can take or leave in matters of general information.

The article says that there were but four American traitors working for Germany in WWII. Only one of them might have had an ethnic motive. The United Kingdom convicted eleven and all but one were Englishmen (or Englishwomen).

As far as that 18 percent goes, I don't know of any that went off the rails, but you could argue I guess, that FDR's actions may have had some deterrent effect. However, I would offer that most of those boys were not out behind the barn when the brains were being passed out.

List of Allied traitors during World War II
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

United States of America

Iva Toguri D'Aquino - Guilty, jailed for 6 years. Pardoned 1977- because of perjured testimony. Died 2006

Herbert John Burgman-Guilty-died in prison 1953

Velvalee Dickinson - Guilty of Spying for the Japanese. Jailed. Died 1980

Mildred Gillars - Guilty, jailed, released in 1961. Died 1988

Tomoya Kawakita - Guilty, sentenced to death, commuted to life imprisonment, pardoned in 1963 and deported to Japan.

Martin James Monti - Guilty and served time in prison post World War II twice 1946-1947 and from 1948 to 1960. Died 2000

Ezra Pound - mentally unfit to stand trial. Died 1972

Robert Henry Best - Guilty, sentenced to life in prison. Died 1952

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis..._traitors_during_World_Wa r_II

randge  posted on  2020-02-21   11:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4)

I did Korean thing with Japanese/American that was interned during WWII...no animosity.

WWII..Japanese and American people did not know or understand that Japanese could have taken Hawaii very easily.

I had family there, working as civilian for Navy Dept. They tried to get Navy to issue them rifles and ammo to fight Japanese. Navy said "regulations" forbid giving civilians guns.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   12:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Navy said "regulations" forbid giving civilians guns.

Hawaii was not a State until 1958...WWII happened 16 years earlier...

--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...

war  posted on  2020-02-21   12:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

Hawaii was not a State until 1958.

You are confused. ;)

en.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/Hawaii_Admission_Act

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-21   12:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

By a year...

--Perfecting Obscurity Since 1958...

war  posted on  2020-02-21   13:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#6)

Hawaii was not a State until 1958...WWII happened 16 years earlier...

And?????

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   14:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#8)

By a year...

It is a simple matter to check online before posting. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-21   14:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#5)

I did Korean thing with Japanese/American that was interned during WWII...no animosity.

Many things are flushed down the memory hole and set aside when contemplated against the monstrous scale of suffering and displacement that war brings with it. That is particularly so among those that have lived through it and participated in it.

What we take for granted as rights or liberties simply go out the window and injustice becomes commonplace. Ordinary people are inured to the hard things.

That is why many pray each day that none of us has to live through another Great War like the last two.

randge  posted on  2020-02-21   15:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#11)

That is why many pray each day that none of us has to live through another Great War like the last two.

Modern day rewriting of history to make this country look as being evil since creation irritates me.

As a kid in the 1930s, I knew war was coming. We all did. My older brothers knew it. One never came back.

The cry was ,"stay home mind our own business and everything would be good". That was horseshit.

Half a million American kids died because no one would take Hitler out.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   16:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#3) (Edited)

The Army knew they had 18 per cent of their invading force was made up of men of German descent.

Where are you getting your information? The US was about 60% claiming at least partial Germanic descent (including Scandinavian, Norman, Saxon, Belgian, some German-Russian, and German-Polish) in the days before WW1. Parts of the country were 40% German speaking, with over 800 German language publications in the US in the 1890s. German is still the largest reported ethnic identity in the US.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-02-21   17:33:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge, All (#4)

I tried one of the traitors at random -- Mildred Gellars. wikid: 'In 1934, she moved to Dresden, Germany, to study music, and was later employed as a teacher of English at the Berlitz School of Languages in Berlin.' More:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil...Gillars#Nazi_propagandist

Sounds partly like a victim of tough circumstance, mostly quite reasonable for somebody on a course to move to Germany and marry a German. I daresay there's not a single ameriKan WW2 soldier who wouldn't have fought passionately for Germany if born there in the appropriate age bracket.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-02-21   17:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#4)

Ezra Pound - mentally unfit to stand trial. Died 1972

Pound was confined to St. Elizabeth's Mental Hospital.

He commissioned Eustace Mullins to write a book, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve.

Eustace Mullins passed away in 2010. :-/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-21   18:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: NeoconsNailed (#14)

I daresay there's not a single ameriKan WW2 soldier who wouldn't have fought passionately for Germany if born there in the appropriate age bracket.

That's the way it is, isn't it? Irving wrote that although Hitler used White Russians, he still didn't trust them, because they had betrayed their mother country. -- Even though the Bolsheviks had murdered many of their own mothers and fathers.

StraitGate  posted on  2020-02-21   18:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: StraitGate (#16) (Edited)

White Russians

They were the Loyalists. The Reds were the Bolsheviks.

The Russian Civil War was between the Reds and Whites. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2020-02-21   18:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Anthem (#13)

Where are you getting your information?

Military records.

General population statistics are misleading.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   18:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Got a link?


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-02-21   18:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#18)

General population statistics are misleading.

How so?


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-02-21   19:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Anthem (#20)

How so?

The extreme obvious military statistic is in plain sight.

Take any combat group, rifle company for example. Tally the ethnic groups.

Jews??? None.

We had combat flight crews, totaling near 1000 men. We had one black, one Jew, one Japanese and six Hispanics. Who were the majority? Western European, farmers, factory workers, run of the mill.

Further military breakdown...When our crews were put together by random pick, of eleven men we were told that ODDS were the crew would have men predominate from three states. CA PA and TX. We had six from the three.

Population statistics have NOTHING to do with military statistics.

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-21   21:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings, randge, 4um (#15)

Ezra Pound - mentally unfit to stand trial. Died 1972

Pound was confined to St. Elizabeth's Mental Hospital.

There was some old kooky depression era movie with a character called Ezra Ounce. Probably some kind of parody.

I miss my 400 disc CD changer that the lightning took out last summer.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-21   22:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Esso (#22)

I miss my 400 disc CD changer that the lightning took out last summer.

Damn! how did that play with insurance company? and what all else was damaged or zapped?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2020-02-21   22:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso (#22)

Wish I could find somebody to take my 288-slot audiocassette stand -- or think of something else for it to hold :(

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2020-02-21   23:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#23)

Damn! how did that play with insurance company? and what all else was damaged or zapped?

Took out everything in the house electronic, even some things that were battery operated. You could see the lightning tracks in the walls.

Insurance company pretty much told me to go fv(k myself, the stuff is old.

After three weeks I told them to go fv(k themself.

I'm old, this wasn't a battle worth fighting. I'm alone, no point.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-22   1:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: NeoconsNailed (#24) (Edited)

Wish I could find somebody to take my 288-slot audiocassette stand -- or think of something else for it to hold

Well, hell, move in with me! Bring all your burnt out electronics with you. We might be able to get EPA SuperFund status.

Regardless, we can get drunk & party until we're dead!

S#!t, you should've been with me when I was driving a "super car" back to FTW because they couldn't find anybody to trust with a RHD car other than an ex-pilot. Fun, but I don't fancy cars worth more than my life.

Sometimes I ferry cars for car dealerships, I'm 59 with a clean driving record, but they want old, fat, sensible folks in the hot rods. If I knew what I was in store for today, i'd have told them NO!

Had a riot today, but I know why the had "minders" ahead & behind me today.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2020-02-22   1:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#21)

farmers, factory workers, run of the mill

These were Germanic in the US except for farmers in the deep south (excluding Texas which had a large German population). Your comments are contradictory and based on anecdotal personal experience. In other words, not factual.


Freedom is a social skill.

Anthem  posted on  2020-02-22   12:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Anthem (#27)

These were Germanic in the US except for farmers in the deep south (excluding Texas which had a large German population). Your comments are contradictory and based on anecdotal personal experience. In other words, not factual.

Will file under "work product" of graduate of "Project 100000".

Cynicom  posted on  2020-02-22   14:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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