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Title: Who here DOESN'T know the Federal Gas tax, approx . 18 cents per gallon EXPIRED on Sep 30?
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Published: Oct 10, 2011
Author: itistoolate
Post Date: 2011-10-10 11:21:10 by Itistoolate
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#39. To: lead.and.lag (#37)
FormerLurkerm, another proven loon

Hey Mr. comedian, do you have anything intelligent to say, or are you just here to be an asshole?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:15:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: FormerLurker (#38) (Edited)
my prices were regular
watch the Fox video here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/31/obama-picks-gas-tax-for-first-round-fiscal-fight/

Itistoolate posted on 2011-10-10 21:16:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: FormerLurker (#39)
you just here to be an asshole

want to explain what chemtrails are for?
are they to kill billions of people, or are they to stave off global warming,which which will kill billions of peole?
why are alex jones fans so fucking stupid?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:18:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: lead.and.lag (#37)
So Einstein, do you care to explain how dinosaurs can turn into petroleum, and in such huge quantities that it can power mankind for close to a century so far in terms of transportation, clothing, plastics, and a wide array of chemicals, and longer than that in terms of heating and lighting?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:21:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: FormerLurker (#42) (Edited)
anygody that trots out the dinosaur argueemnt is a cretin.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:22:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: lead.and.lag (#41)
want to explain what chemtrails are for?
So you're trying to state that petroleum really comes from chemtrails? What are you smoking dude? I bet you think the Easter Bunny lays all the eggs that make it to market too right?
why are alex jones fans so fucking stupid?
Are you one of them, because I'm certainly not a "fan" of his. Try again idiot.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:23:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: lead.and.lag (#43)
anygody that trots out the dinosaur arguemnt is a cretin.

Try spell check next time.
Anyways, where do YOU think petroleum comes from then, eh?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:24:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: FormerLurker (#44)
you're in the same category as original intent.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:26:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: lead.and.lag (#46)
you're in the same category as original intent.

Uh huh.
So THAT'S your "argument" eh? I say you're in the same category as Dick Cheney. So take THAT.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:27:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: FormerLurker (#45)
the critical question remains: why are you defending israel by denying its motive to stage 9/11?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:28:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: lead.and.lag (#48)
Neither Israel nor the NWO care about peak oil. They care about money, power, and the ability to control governments.
Sale of petroluem is a means, not a raison etre.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:41:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: FormerLurker (#49)
the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.
what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:46:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: lead.and.lag (#50) (Edited)
the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.
The ability to control government and the world in general hings on the ability to control ENERGY, its production, and use. Oil is just the most "rewarding" form of energy for those who own and control the oil fields and refineries.
what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?
What is YOUR motive in trying to sell the idea of peak oil? And again I ask you, how do YOU think oil came to be in the first place?
Production can easily be artificially capped in order to raise profits. And you haven't shown how that is not the case.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:51:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: FormerLurker (#51)
what is your motive in denying oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?
why do you refuse to anwswer the question?
are you protecting israel?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:55:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: FormerLurker (#51)
why does israel need protection from tthe idea of peak oil?
could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 21:57:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: lead.and.lag (#52)
Hey pal, learn to read, I DID answer your question. Production can easily be capped in order to raise profits. It's much more profitable to sell less for more than to keep producing more and selling for less.
Now, when will you answer MY questions, or is it that you don't have any valid answers to those questions?
Who are YOU protecting? Haliburton? Mobil, EXXON, BP, etc.?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 21:58:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: lead.and.lag (#53)
could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

Nope, there were MANY other reasons for 9/11. Look up PNAC for ONE such piece of information as to ONE of the reasons WHY it happened.
Look up the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, for more pieces of the puzzle.
And oh yeah, don't forget about all those who profit from the Iraq and Afghan wars.
Finally, look up the 2.2 TRILLION DOLLARS that sort of "went missing" as reported by Donald Rumsfeld on 9/10/2001.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:02:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: FormerLurker (#54)
the logic is there.
PNAC needed a new pearl harbor, and they got it.
PNAC partners, exxon, have been making record profits.
PNAC is a front organization for israel.
wwhy are you denying israel's motive to stage 9/11?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:05:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: FormerLurker (#55) (Edited)
it's motive, means, and opportunity, isnt it?
the PNAC people demonstrated motive when the said they needed a new pearl harbor.
netanyahu demonstrated motive when he said the 9/11 attacks were "very good".
neocon cheney said that oil supply would fail to keep up with demand.
plaease explain why you are defending israel.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:09:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: lead.and.lag (#56)
why are you denying israel's motive to stage 9/11?

You have to understand that Israel is but a creation of those who control THIS country, and they are more than likely not even US citizens. In fact, I'd say most of them are European.
In terms of who profits the most, it isn't Israel. They were certainly HAPPY that it happened and may have helped out, but they didnt' plan the attacks or execute them.
If there were no direct US government involvement, then the fact is, even with the degree of corruption which exists at the highest echelons of this government, we would have gone to war against Israel if there was any evidence at all that Israel was the culprit behind the attacks.
Just as with the USS Liberty, Israel was given the green light if they were in fact involved at the operational level in 9/11. And that green light came from the same people who gave Johnson the order to pull back the air support that was on its way to defend the Liberty against an act of war.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:17:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: lead.and.lag (#57)
neocon cheney said that oil supply would fail to keep up with demand.

And Tricky Dick Cheney ALWAYS tells us the truth, eh? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:18:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: FormerLurker (#58) (Edited)
c'mon
it's time for you explain why you are defending israel by denying that israel had motive to stage 9/11.
if you cant do that in plain english, then we'll know that you're firmly in the same category as original intent... a limited hangout bullshitter in defense of israel.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:21:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: lead.and.lag (#57)
And BTW, your premise that Israel carried out the 9/11 attacks due to "peak oil" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In terms of the Israeli government, their motive would have been to expand Israel's borders and "get rid" of Saddam Hussein as a bonus. That, and they have a LOT more free weapons and billions of dollars from the US taxpayer as a result of any "war against Islam", which is what this "war on terror" is really about.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:24:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: FormerLurker (#61) (Edited)
israel must be secured, by grabbing the high ground in the west bank and subduing its neighbors, before its american protection expires from oil shortages.
makes all the sense in the world.
the only people that say they cant see the sense of it are protectors of israel.
why are you pprotecting israel?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:27:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: lead.and.lag (#60)
why you are defending israel by denying that israel had motive to stage 9/11

I am not doing any such thing idiot. Learn to read what is written, rather than what you fabricate in your own mind.
Now answer THESE questions or STFU;

Why are you insisting that Israel would even be interested in "peak oil"?
How do you think oil came to exist in the first place?
Who are YOU protecting? So far you appear to be protecting those corrupt individuals within OUR own government who were involved in the attacks. Why is that?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:28:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: lead.and.lag (#62)
before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

That doesn't make any sense. We do not protect them by oil, we give them weapons and large amounts of money each year. They have nuclear weapons remember, so they don't even really NEED our protection.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:29:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: FormerLurker (#63)
if israel needs to secure itself before its american protector expires from high oil prices, then what?
9/11?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:30:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: lead.and.lag (#65)
Care to answer the questions I asked, or are you just going to evade them totally?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:31:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: FormerLurker (#64) (Edited)
how far are you prepared to continue this?
because the logic becomes more apparent with every post we make: you are protecting israel by denying peak oil, and i am demonstrating you're a limiited hangout protector of israel.
then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:34:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: lead.and.lag (#67) (Edited)
It's obvious that you have no argument, just accusations and ad hominems. You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern, and can't even tell me where you think oil comes from in the first place.
I've even given reasons WHY Israel might be involved with the attacks, yet you repeat the same mantra like a broken record, "why are you protecting israel by denying peak oil", even though there is no evidence whatsoever that peak oil is even taking place, or that it would somehow benefit Israel or cause it to attack America.
So when all else fails, refuse to give any rational answer (or nor answer at all) to very straightforward and legitimate questions, then call people names.
Yeah, you're a real piece of work.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:40:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: lead.and.lag (#67)
then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

I think it's clear to most people here that you are an agent provocateur. So who pays your salary, eh?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:42:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: FormerLurker (#68) (Edited)
You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern,

please post crude oil and lease condensate production since 9/11. please post the logic behind exxon signing on with the PNAC neocons, and exxon's subsequent record profits.
please explain why, the more you post, the more you seem to be a limited hangout defender of israel.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:45:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: lead.and.lag (#70)
Oil companies profit when they hold back production and raise prices.
Now for the last time, before I bozo you, answer MY questions for YOU.
WHERE do YOU think oil comes from in the first place?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:47:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: FormerLurker (#71)
i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.
please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.
too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:51:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: FormerLurker (#71)
the only thing you limited hangout people got going for you is persistence.
too bad your tactics were so accurately described by hitler, isnt it?
will persistent idiocy overcome geology?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 22:54:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: lead.and.lag (#72)
i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.
So are you a mind reader? Do you know what they know? Where is it that THEY think it comes from, since you're so gifted?
please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.
Jillions, eh? How many zeroes is that? Are you trying to state that the Middle East used to be a giant sea? And did you know that most sea creatures are eaten by larger creatures, and are NOT "crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked"?
Did you know that methane is an abundant organic chemical, and can be converted to petroleum? That natural processes deep within the earth can actually perform that conversion naturally?
too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.
Too bad your pet theory forces you to ignore science, and even to misspell the word geological. Or perhaps that's just you doing what you do naturally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 22:59:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: lead.and.lag (#73) (Edited)
Hey pal, that I don't swallow your "peak oil" Kool-Aid simply indicates I'm not a moron who jumps at any idea tossed around, I want proof. Thus far you've done nothing but launch attacks against me and anyone else who doesn't just shut up and let you spew your invalid and unscientific assertions.
So now that you've failed to label me a "Israel defender", you're going to try the association to Hitler trick, right? Why are you so desperate to villify anyone who doesn't agree with you? Are you 12 years old or something?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 23:02:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: FormerLurker (#74)
oil companies spend billions of dollar looking for oil.
they've developed methods that work... and those methods are based on the fact aht oil is made over millions of years from small animals and plants.
meahwhile, you cant explain why you're defending israel.
why is that?

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 23:05:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: lead.and.lag (#76)
That you chant the mantra that I defend Israel doesn't make it so. People who've read my posts over the years know that I am far from a "Israel defender", I speak out against their atrocities and misdeeds, unlike you.
They also know I am keen on scientific evidence and facts, also unlike you.
That oil companies constantly seek out oil fields doesn't mean it comes from ancient plants and organisms, it means they're looking for more outlets from within the Earth that dispense oil, in order to have even MORE of that which they can make TRILLIONS of dollars on over the years.
So now, have you even looked into the science concerning methane and oil?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2011-10-10 23:09:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: FormerLurker (#77)
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
"First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.
"If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.
"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.
"But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
"I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."
MeinKampf
people are gonna start wondering why you're confirming hitler's description of jewish debate tactics.;

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 23:14:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: FormerLurker (#77)
i mean, you'd think you people would have a certain amount of pride.
but then, maybe there's no money in pride.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-10-10 23:17:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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