"Whatever the truth may be in regards to after-the-fact claims that Kenneth Harding was a murder suspect, it has no relevance to the on-the-spot decision by police to fire (multiple times) on a bus fare scofflaw. Murderers are entitled to a trial, not execution in the streets. This extreme excessive force completely undermines community relations with police, is racially divisive"
Kenneth Harding is still alive in this picture... the officers standing around him did nothing to help him with his injuries.
SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco police shot a man in San Francisco's Bayview District early Saturday evening. The man died later that evening from his injuries.
The incident occurred around 4:45 p.m. on Third Street and Oakdale Avenue when a 19-year-old man, who was believed to have been carrying a gun, was shot and collapsed on the sidewalk, police said.
A police spokesman said the shooting began after two uniformed officers conducted a fare inspection on a Muni light rail vehicle.
They detained the man on the platform, but he fled on foot.
During the foot pursuit, police said the suspect fired at the officers, and the officers fired back.
Witnesses had a different story and said police overreacted.
As the man was running he had his hands up in the air, and then hit the ground when he was shot, one witness said.
Police maintained that the man had a weapon and they searched the area for the firearm.
One bullet casing lay on the street, and police said it came from a gun that did not belong to the police officers. Police said witnesses could have taken the victim’s weapon when the man collapsed, or the suspect could have thrown the gun somewhere during the pursuit.
The suspect was taken to the hospital with life-threatening injuries and he later died from those injuries at 7 p.m. The officers were not injured.
Within hours of the shooting, an anonymous video popped up on YouTube that showed not only the chaos of the shooting scene, but what the person who posted the video claimed was a silver handgun lying 20-feet from the mortally wounded teenager.
In the video, a large crowd that gathered near the scene, along with several police officers who roped off the area.
A close look at the lower right corner of the video revealed a shiny object.
In the video, a person in a hooded sweatshirt picked it up.
Later in the video a person wearing a gray hoodie picked up something that appeared to be a cell phone.
Police still haven't found the gun the suspect was said to be firing.
The two police officers involved in the shooting were placed on paid administrative leave following the incident.
The shooting is being investigated by the homicide detail, the internal affairs officer-involved shooting, the District Attorney's Office and the Office of Citizen Complaints.
They usually don't let you on the bus if you don't pay in advance. If he was shooting at the police he was a bad shot. I wonder if the police are starting to take non-issued weapons with them so they can throw them down at crime scenes and say the suspect was shooting at them like the military does on a regular basis in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I wonder if the police are starting to take non-issued weapons with them so they can throw them down at crime scenes and say the suspect was shooting at them like the military does on a regular basis in Iraq and Afghanistan.
They've been doing that for years. The Cop slang for it is a "throwaway piece". Usually gotten off some hood they hassled and let go after taking his gun. After all what's the hood going to do? Complain to the cops?
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
They usually don't let you on the bus if you don't pay in advance.
Some metros work on a semi-honor system where you pay for a ticket at a machine but you're free to board with or without a ticket. Enforcement is in the form of unannonuced checks to see if you have your ticket. Fines are such that not buying a ticket is "betting against the house", meaning that you'll pay more in the long run given the odds of getting caught.
I guess this kid paid a huge amount for losing that bet.
I wonder if the police are starting to take non-issued weapons with them so they can throw them down at crime scenes and say the suspect was shooting at them like the military does on a regular basis in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's already well documented that some police have done this on numerous occasions.
Then again, maybe he did have a gun. I obviously wouldn't just take the police word for it that he did, but he may have had one. Plenty of witnesses say he didn't.
If the police are telling the truth, it sucks to be them. And if they are lying, it still sucks to be them. I think anyone that is or wants to be a police officer must be certifibly insane.
Police said witnesses could have taken the victim’s weapon when the man collapsed, or the suspect could have thrown the gun somewhere during the pursuit.
Why did none of the police report seeing this? Did the police not watch him the whole time they were chasing and shooting him? Did they stop to tie their shoelaces?
Why did none of the police report seeing this? Did the police not watch him the whole time they were chasing and shooting him? Did they stop to tie their shoelaces?
If he didn't have the gun on him when they found him, why were they shooting him?
the article says the cops were doing a fare inspection on a 'muni light rail vehicle'. it's like the metro train here where its an honor system.You buy your ticket & board, then,at random, sheriffs come by & demand to see your ticket.its not a bus.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
It's already well documented that some police have done this
Yes, there was a famous case of this in huntington beach Ca where police admitted under oath that this was POLICY(!) after a victim of it sued them for it.Look up POLICE ADMIT PLANTING GUNS AND DRUGS IN CARS, LAUGH ABOUT IT
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
#15. To: wudidiz, pinguinite, original_intent, eric stratton (#7)
remember the case just last year that got worlwide attention in Oakland Ca where train cops shot a black young man in the back while he was subdued.That pig was found not guilty by a JURY! Cops seized many cellphones of witnesses who had filmed the murder
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
The victim of last years case was Oscar Grant.Theres a vid of a policewoman chasing a black girl who filmed the cop murder Grant & the cop screaches GIMME THAT PHONE as the girl flees.The subway doors close as the girl escapes & says 'No, biatch!' GREAT
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
The pigs are so forked in the head that it is more a mental disease and disorder than anything that the "medical" industry has diagnosed in years!
M-16s .... you've gotta fucking be kidding me!
These pigs are paranoid assklowns!
One of these days, and I'm guessing soon, a mob like that is going to rush them, tear them to f'ing pieces, and a good chunk of America is going to rejoice. I'll be among them, ... go out and have a beer in celebration for having a few less Satanic psychotics on the planet!
Cops are slowly realizing that it ain't about law and order or civilized society. The police are to help the elite maintain control of the disenfranchised masses. Cops can either wield their batons and do "The Lord's Work" or join the masses and be brutalized themselves.
Cops are the contemporary equivalents of Roman Centurions who will crucify any and all who upset the de facto rulers of the former US. And mirroring the Biblical account it may be President Pontius Q. Despot who washes his hands but the actual sentence will be ordered by modern day Pharisees, those with great power that is inversely proportional to their anonymity.
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Don't be silly. They're not any worse than, say, the police in Brazil.
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
The pigs are so forked in the head that it is more a mental disease and disorder than anything that the "medical" industry has diagnosed in years!
Satanic psychotics
The closest "diagnosis" to the pig's mental diseases would be "sadistic personality disorder" which was considered for the psychiatrist's bible, their DSM editions III and IV.
The "sadistic personality disorder" diagnosis was never approved by the AMA, most likely because most of their member psychiatrists and the majority of pigs and politicians would qualify.
Portent of things to come. In a short time, this won't be much to get bent out of shape over, relatively speaking. You can multiply what you see here by several orders of magnitude.
The wife tells me that it is against police policy to allow protests against police brutality and that it gives them permission to exercise more of the same.
There's an etymological redundancy if I've ever seen one. "Police" and "policy" come from the same word. Police policy is whatever the police say it is & they can make it up as they go along, don'tcha know. ;]
Quote: "Perhaps, but IMO most are siding with the Tyranny, far from "the Lord's work."
Of course. The "lord" to whom I was referring is King David Son Of Standard Oil. It should have been in lower case to avoid any confusion with The Lord Jehovah-YHWH. My apologies for any misunderstanding.
Quote: "I suspect that the "man of lawlessness" does not refer to an individual, rather a state of man, ... such as what we're now seeing, whereby lawlessness and sin runs rampant and unbridled, as a rule and with the endorsement of society as it were.
By that I mean that the quest for mammon/wealth e.g. will be, as it is, fully endorsed, encourage, and even set as a standard to be attained, ... as it is."
You're batting .1000 with me so far.
I never thought I'd see the day when a moral man would be considered an oddity, and whose very presence would chill casual chats in mixed company. I remember a film about some Aryan Military Academy For Boys where the half crazy and completely corrupt commandant said "Our motto is, 'a cadet does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.'" It's a wonderful code of ethics (which I have adopted) but Hollywood very cynically used it as dialogue for a villainous mad man. Those words would never come from the mouths of any of their heroes,who must have the extra-legal latitude to summarily execute "anti-Semites, bank robbers, anti egalitarians and anti-Semites."
