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Title: The World's Smallest Political Quiz
Source: Advocates for Self Government
URL Source: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz
Published: Feb 10, 2011
Author: David F. Nolan.
Post Date: 2011-02-10 15:37:38 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Politics, beliefs, government, choice
Views: 3146
Comments: 62

The Worlds Smallest Political Quiz has been around now for quite some time. This is the latest version, and it tends to be reasonably accurate as far as pinning yourself down as to your political leanings.
This version is different from the one I last took which pegged me as Paleocon/Paleolibertarian which I thought was pretty accurate by the definitions.
I do have a question or two on the latest but it is still interesting to take to help give a person some idea of where they lie in the current political landscape.

Take The Quiz Now

Poster Comment: For the record I scored 100% Libertarian on personal issues and 70% on Economic Issues which gave me an overall score of Libertarian.
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#1. To: All (#0)
What Is the World’s Smallest Political Quiz?
The World’s Smallest Political Quiz is a fast, fun, and accurate assessment of a person’s overall political views. The Quiz is composed of two parts: a new political map that is far more accurate than the old “Left-Right” line, and ten questions on specific political issues to help a Quiz taker find his place on that new political map.

The new political map is based on the "Nolan Chart," created in 1970 by David F. Nolan.

The “Left-Right” political model is misleading and fatally flawed. It doesn't have a place for many millions of people who don't fit neatly into some variant of liberal or conservative. In effect, it disenfranchises the millions of Americans who don't feel that "left," "right," "liberal," "conservative," etc. accurately describe their views.
Thomas Jefferson, for example, wouldn't fit comfortably on that chart under any of those labels. Neither would Jesse Ventura or Huey Long or Pat Buchanan. America's real political spectrum is more complex than this simplistic Crossfire model allows.
Nor does the "left-right" line give any useful insight into the differences between the various political categories. It doesn't tell us what the important differences are between liberals, conservatives, fascists, and so on. It tells us nothing of the views of these and other groups. Virtually all human political action can be divided into two broad categories: economic and personal.
The "personal" category includes what you do in relationships, in self-expression, and in general what you do with your own body and mind. Examples of personal activities: marriage; choosing what books you read and movies you watch; what foods, medicines, and drugs you choose to consume; sports; your religious choices; organizations you join; who you choose to associate with. The "economic" category includes what you do as a producer and consumer -- what you can buy, sell, produce. Where you work, who you hire, what you do with your money. Examples of economic activity: starting a business; buying a home; constructing a building; working in an office.

Since most government activity occurs in these two major areas, political positions can be defined by how much government control a person favors in these two areas. The extremes are no government at all in either area (anarchism) or total or near-total government control of everything (various forms of totalitarianism).
The central insight of the political model promoted by the Quiz is that the major difference between the various political philosophies, the real defining element in what a person believes politically, is the amount of government control over human action.
This is a breakthrough concept that instantly gives far more insight into politics. The Quiz chart more accurately places totalitarian or interventionist philosophies -- fascism, communism, and so on -- next to each other, instead of at opposite ends of a single line. And it is far more inclusive, with room for libertarians and others; indeed, virtually every political philosophy can be put onto that chart, unlike the one-dimensional "left-right" line.

Read an in-depth FAQ about the Quiz here.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 15:39:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 80%

International free trade is an economic wet dream that Libertarians need to stop having.
There is NO SUCH THING in the real world.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 16:15:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Lod (#2)
International free trade is an economic wet dream that Libertarians need to stop having.

That was one of the items I got dinged on. I am all in favor of fair trade but not the laissez faire model under the current political and economic circumstances.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 16:17:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Original_Intent, Lod, Eric Stratton, Armadillo, abraxas, christine, Jethro Tull (#1)
I scored:

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-10 16:33:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: farmfriend (#4)
Cool. That puts you, based on the test, solidly in the Libertarian Camp.
I still have reservations on free trade. I am not opposed to the general concept but it is the reality that troubles me. ;-)
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 16:37:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Original_Intent, ff, 4 (#5)
Open borders was a bullet curiously absent from the quiz.
That one would have dinged me also.
Anyone that goes for that is just nuts.
Plain and simple.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 16:46:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: christine, abraxas, TwentyTwelve, farmfriend, ratcat, wudidiz, CadetD, Itistoolate, Kamala, Eric Stratton, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, All (#0)
Here is another quiz which I think might be a hair more accurate. I still scored as a Libertarian, but with a leaning towards pacifism. I disagree with that as I am not a "pacifist" I just believe that war is rarely justified, and ONLY as self defense or the legitimate defense of others.

Take This Quiz
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 16:51:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Lod (#6)
Open borders was a bullet curiously absent from the quiz.
That one would have dinged me also.
Anyone that goes for that is just nuts.

That's where my sentiments are as well. They've modified the test since I last took it, and I am currently looking for the version I originally took.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 16:53:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 80%
According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...LIBERTARIAN
Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties. .
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " Thomas Jefferson
noone222 posted on 2011-02-10 16:55:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Original_Intent (#7)
Still a pacifist lib.
War is still a racket.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 16:59:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: noone222, christine, farmfriend, Lod, all (#9)
My guess would be that most of the people who are regulars here will score as Libertarians. Which stands to reason. While we are still a diverse group there is a core set of beliefs and outlooks which serve as a common denominator. And that is fine with me, both the true diversity, and the shared belief in individual liberty.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:01:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Lod (#10)
Still a pacifist lib.
War is still a racket.

Ditto, Ditto.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:02:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Lod (#10)
Still a pacifist lib.

You're probably in possession of WMDs in your basement ... you pacifist beotch !
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " Thomas Jefferson
noone222 posted on 2011-02-10 17:07:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#12)
Watching and listening to the people in Liberation Square is pumping me up.
God, I pray that the citizens prevail there.
They are not going away, they are dialing it up!
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 17:10:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)
I don't have much use for The Advocates for Self Government - on account of their assertion that the socioeconomic polarities of conservatives and liberals are reversed. According to them a liberal is socially libertarian and economically authoritarian, and a conservative is socially authoritarian and economically libertartian. This I believe is false, liberalism is authoritarian right across the socioeconomic spectrum, and libertarians of all people should know that a direct economic regulation is an indirect social regulation and a direct social regulation is an indirect economic one.
While it is true to say liberals have some pet libertarians beliefs like the legalisation of cannabis/marijuana etc, they are largely authoritarian.
It is equally true that we have faux-conservatives advocating social regulations and statist approaches to law and order, true conservatives are difficult to distinguish from libertarians. It might be best to suggest that true conservatism is a tempered form of libertarianism.
So, while the idea of finding a 2D plane to replace the old, flawed 1D left-right spectrum understandable and desirable, I think the Political Compass here is fatally flawed. I suggest instead a new one dimensional paradigm, with the influence of state on society being the determining factor, ie:
Anarchism
Libertarianism
Old-style conservatism
Centerism
Social democracy and Christian democracy
Socialism
Full fledged totalitarianism - Fascism, Communism etc.
If we adjusted the above paradigm to say "The state's influence on the individual person", we can actually place radical environmentalism below fascism and communism, as radical environmentalists ultimately would rather that Mankind cease to exist..
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
irishthatcherite posted on 2011-02-10 17:26:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Lod (#14)
Watching and listening to the people in Liberation Square is pumping me up.
God, I pray that the citizens prevail there.

The "Spirit of '76" resides in the heart of every man or woman who would breathe free regardless of the risk of attaining that God Given Right.
Stand Tall Egypt. The free men and women of Planet Earth are with you if only in spirit.
May God Bless your endeavor.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:29:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: irishthatcherite (#15)
I don't have much use for The Advocates for Self Government - on account of their assertion that the socioeconomic polarities of conservatives and liberals are reversed. According to them a liberal is socially libertarian and economically authoritarian, and a conservative is socially authoritarian and economically libertartian. This I believe is false, liberalism is authoritarian right across the socioeconomic spectrum, and libertarians of all people should know that a direct economic regulation is an indirect social regulation and a direct social regulation is an indirect economic one.
While it is true to say liberals have some pet libertarians beliefs like the legalisation of cannabis/marijuana etc, they are largely authoritarian.

Thank you, you just articulated for me what I was trying to put my finger on as regards how the test has been "updated".
In the prior edition I scored as a Paleocon/Paleolibertarian and now they are trying to tell me I am on the left because I am not in favor of allowing our economy to be sucked down to Turd Whirled levels. Piss on 'em.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:33:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Original_Intent (#7)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-02-10 17:37:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)
Thank you, you just articulated for me what I was trying to put my finger on as regards how the test has been "updated".

Updated? I see, I was working from memory. lol
In the prior edition I scored as a Paleocon/Paleolibertarian and now they are trying to tell me I am on the left because I am not in favor of allowing our economy to be sucked down to Turd Whirled levels. Piss on 'em.
I can guess the question was about free trade vs. protectionism? lol Protectionism is often mistakingly assigned to the left.
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
irishthatcherite posted on 2011-02-10 17:39:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)
and 70% on Economic Issues

you neo soviet prick ok everyone on my LIBERTARIAN ping list sick him until he bleeds :-D j/k
we are still cool oi :-P
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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 17:41:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: irishthatcherite (#15)
Full fledged totalitarianism - Fascism, Communism etc.

That again mirrors my own thoughts - as illustrated by the following question:
To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?
The answer of course is none. In both you are a slave and whatever political taxonomy may designate there is no effective difference between the two as regards the individual. Whether you call the Master Commissar or Commandante is effectively irrelevant as it is simply two names synonymous with the same thing. It is the two extremes of the political spectrum such that they circle back and overlap into one.
And Radical Environmentalism = Nihilism. It is such a distorted and perverted view that, despite being an avid conservationist, I categorically reject the label environmentalist.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:43:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: All, *libertarians* (#20)

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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 17:43:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: freepatriot32 (#20)
and 70% on Economic Issues
you neo soviet prick ok everyone on my LIBERTARIAN ping list sick him until he bleeds :-D j/k
we are still cool oi :-P

I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy who puts the welfare of my American brethren first.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:44:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Original_Intent (#21)
To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?
The answer of course is none. In both you are a slave and whatever political taxonomy may designate there is no effective difference between the two as regards the individual. Whether you call the Master Commissar or Commandante is effectively irrelevant as it is simply two names synonymous with the same thing. It is the two extremes of the political spectrum such that they circle back and overlap into one.

Indeed, Orwell illustrated it without saying it in 1984 - here we had the "perfect" totalitarian regime, but you couldn't it was fascist or communist, just simply totalitarian. He saw no difference between the two either. "Streamlined by the men from the east" as he put it in Coming Up For Air.
And Radical Environmentalism = Nihilism. It is such a distorted and perverted view that, despite being an avid conservationist, I categorically reject the label environmentalist.
Effectively, yes. If one doesn't believe in Humanity, one doesn't have a belief.
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
irishthatcherite posted on 2011-02-10 17:49:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Original_Intent (#21)
To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?
The answer of course is none

o was just messing with you in my last reply but i would say i dissagree with you both slightly because if you think about it there can not be totalanarian fascism because if you use the pure definition of fascismn it means that the people that are outside of business not in bed with the government have an infitisamil molocole of freedom but communism means there is nothing and no one outside of government control under fascism the state controls business totally so if you dont run or work for a business your free to the extent you can be free outside the system under communism the state owns and operates even your parents before you are born and knows who is born when so no one can live off grid like thay can under fascism like som minority of even americans live now under the american fascism that has existed since the late 50 s heres am i explaining this right or do you not get what im saying ?
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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 17:50:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#18)
Is outsourcing of American jobs justified if it allows for cheaper goods?

That is the purist libertarian question i.e., in modern Libertarian doctrine free trade is an absolute never to be questioned. It is a doctrinaire view espoused by people who have not followed the consequences through in the REAL world. In an ideal world where all nations were free and competed equally upon an equal footing it would be true, but the existing reality makes it a firm FALSE or NO.
As well an underlying and implied premise is that competition is always good and always benefits the consumer. It was "competition" that gave us VHS as a standard over the superior sound and picture quality of Beta. The same applied to Music CDs where a standard was established which made it difficult to achieve true high fidelity reproduction. The free market for all its virtues has a tendency to seek the least common denominator.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 17:52:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Original_Intent (#23)
I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy who puts the welfare of my American brethren first

thats yuor first mistake cause they will sell you out for season one of american odol on dvd in a heart beat lol im just in a giddy mood pay no atention to me now i get what your saying
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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 17:58:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 80%
According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...
Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

It was that International Free Trade Globalist wet dream question that knocked me down too.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-10 17:58:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Original_Intent (#0)
100 % Anti-Statist, therefore it follows I am a person rather than an automaton. If it is true that the eternal enemy, a blood sucking parasite, of the People is the State, and I for one think it is so.

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2011-02-10 18:01:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: freepatriot32, irishthatcherite (#25)
To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?
The answer of course is none
o was just messing with you in my last reply but i would say i dissagree with you both slightly because if you think about it there can not be totalanarian fascism because if you use the pure definition of fascismn it means that the people that are outside of business not in bed with the government have an infitisamil molocole of freedom but communism means there is nothing and no one outside of government control under fascism the state controls business totally so if you dont run or work for a business your free to the extent you can be free outside the system under communism the state owns and operates even your parents before you are born and knows who is born when so no one can live off grid like thay can under fascism like som minority of even americans live now under the american fascism that has existed since the late 50 s heres am i explaining this right or do you not get what im saying ?

While I understand your qualification I would argue that it is a distinction without a difference.
Communism, as it has worked out in the real world, establishes at the top a hierarchical class of "leaders" who are more equal than others. It exerts total control over all aspects of life including speech and thought and thus the term totalitarianism (a term invented by Jeanne Kirkpatrick).
Under Fascism you have a straightforward hierarchy of leaders and minions. The names are different than under communism but the effect is essentially the same for the individual. In Theory large businesses on the inside maintain some semblance of independence but that is mostly illusion because there is no freedom to oppose the actions of the state. Under Fascism it might even be worse so far as individual welfare goes as there is no assumed obligation to establishing and maintaining a minimum living standard. And totalitarian fascism exerts similar strictures upon speech and thought making no pretense of wearing a velvet glove. The qualification being totalitarian fascism which requires complete subservience to the state.
While one can isolate upon differences between the two the effect is essentially the same - a society of slaves and Masters.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 18:03:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: abraxas (#28)
It was that International Free Trade Globalist wet dream question that knocked me down too.

That's fine. It means you are an AMERICAN Libertarian.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 18:09:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: irishthatcherite (#24)
Indeed, Orwell illustrated it without saying it in 1984 - here we had the "perfect" totalitarian regime, but you couldn't it was fascist or communist, just simply totalitarian.

Which is basically the type of system our would-be Masters and Mistresses (the Rotchilds and their ilk) are attempting to establish. Socialism/Communism for the dumbmasses and capitalism for the well heeled and well connected.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-10 18:12:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Original_Intent, freepatriot32 (#30)
It would depend on whether there is a distinction between the collective of the state and the collective of the corporation state. Whatever difference exists in theory, none exists in practice.
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
irishthatcherite posted on 2011-02-10 18:13:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Original_Intent (#32)
Which is basically the type of system our would-be Masters and Mistresses (the Rotchilds and their ilk) are attempting to establish. Socialism/Communism for the dumbmasses and capitalism for the well heeled and well connected.

Yes, although it can be the other way around - someone said about the bailout of the banks; "socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor".
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
irishthatcherite posted on 2011-02-10 18:15:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: irishthatcherite (#33)
Whatever difference exists in theory, none exists in practice.

yes there is and that might be what im not explaining right. from jamestown america mid 1600s to 1792 when we became the usa there were people that in practice lived off grid that no one knew exsisted. today in fascist dictatorship america some people like that exist because it s possible to under fascism but not under communism by difenition. so there is a difference without distinction for all practicle purposes unless your living under one or the other
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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 18:20:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: irishthatcherite, original intent (#34)
let me sign off of here now and aswer you both tomorroww cause im a bit high right now and i know what im wantingto say but my brain wont let my fingers type it out right but there isa way i can explain it when im straight that i cant do now a distinion without a difference is a vast vast mile wide speed bump between the two when you are living under them for real ask the whiskey rebels until they lost thats the minutia that exists that im tryingto gethrough but ill be ableto tell you later in a way youll both understand in a way that will make you slap your forehead and say of course why didnt i think of it that way now
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freepatriot32 posted on 2011-02-10 18:26:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Original_Intent (#16)
The "Spirit of '76" resides in the heart of every man or woman who would breathe free regardless of the risk of attaining that God Given Right.
Stand Tall Egypt. The free men and women of Planet Earth are with you if only in spirit.
May God Bless your endeavor.

Amen!
The answer to 1984 is 1776.
We are all Egyptians now.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 18:51:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: All (#37)
Both polls could have used our review and input before posting.
Neither was very genius, or correct on questioning the beliefs/opinions of respondents.
It was fun, and generated some very good discussion - always a good thing.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-10 18:58:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#0)
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%
According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is Libertarians.
I think I'm more Conservative, but Libertarian is ok.
Whichever party wants to legalize public nudity is fine by me.

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-10 20:02:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Armadillo (#39)
Whichever party wants to legalize public nudity is fine by me.

I'm in.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-10 20:03:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: farmfriend (#40)
We could start a party, call it the LibertariBuns.
Which is a more basic freedom, legal drugs or legal buns.
Freedom for our buns!
;)

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-10 21:32:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#7)
Here is another quiz which I think might be a hair more accurate.

The second quiz says I'm a "Hardcore Republican".
NOOOOOOOOOO! Say it isnt so!
Conservative/Progressive score: 2, You are a social conservative.
Capitalist Purist/Social Capitalist score: 1, You're a Capitalist Purist.
Libertarian/Authoritarian score: 4, You're a Moderate.
Pacifist/Militarist score: 5, You're a Moderate.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-11 0:19:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Original_Intent (#7)
http://politicalquiz.net/

I will not take it. I refuse.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz posted on 2011-02-11 1:25:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)
Okay, I give in. Twist my rubber arm.
Says I'm a Republican.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz posted on 2011-02-11 1:27:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: wudidiz (#44)
There is also a Canadian version of the test. You can find it by searching on World's smallest political quiz. I thought about you and was going to post it, but didn't.
Oh, and what makes it Canadian I wonder? Do all the questions end with "eh"?
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-11 1:32:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Armadillo (#44)
Ok I took the second test. And the results are:

Overall, you would most likely fit into the category of Hardcore Libertarian

LOL I always knew I was hardcore! LOL
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-11 2:08:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: farmfriend (#46)
I think that's a different hard core.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-11 2:31:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: Original_Intent (#47)
LOL
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-11 2:32:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#47)
I think that's a different hard core.

Once again, that's exactly what I was thinking.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz posted on 2011-02-11 2:47:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: farmfriend (#46)
LOL I always knew I was hardcore! LOL

I got yer "hard core" right here. ;)

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-11 2:48:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: Original_Intent, angK, Tatarewicz, Canadians (#45)
www.fraserinstitute.org/u...allest_Political_Quiz.pdf
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz posted on 2011-02-11 2:54:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: Original_Intent (#47)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-02-11 7:59:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: Armadillo (#39)
Whichever party wants to legalize public nudity is fine by me.

NOT the conservatives. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-11 13:50:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Armadillo (#41)
Freedom for our buns! ;)

Please mandate some toning prior to releasing the buns. Some buns might create cottage cheese cataracts and such. For the health and safety of humanity, tone 'em before you set them free.
ACT NOW!! Don't delay!! Prepare for bun freedom day.......Ab will ship your Buns of Steel immediately for $29.99 plus shipping and handling. Call 1-800-NO-CHEESE today. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-11 13:56:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: abraxas (#54)
Having visited some nude, public beaches on the Med; you see way, way more than you ever wanted to see.
All in all - brutal.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-11 14:10:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Lod (#55)
You see more than you would ever want at Wal Mart. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-11 14:13:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: abraxas (#54)
Please mandate some toning prior to releasing the buns.
Ab will ship your Buns of Steel immediately for $29.99 plus shipping and handling. Call 1-800-NO-CHEESE today. : )

Are you giving me a hint?

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-11 15:29:29 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: Lod (#55) (Edited)
Having visited some nude, public beaches on the Med; you see way, way more than you ever wanted to see.
All in all - brutal.

I went to a nude resort recently and saw many shapes, sizes, and ages.
Didnt bother me at all. Nobody is perfect.

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-11 15:31:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: Armadillo (#57)
Not you.........but buns in general could use some toning. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-11 17:19:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: Armadillo (#50)
I got yer "hard core" right here. ;)

Oooo baby!
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-11 20:18:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: Original_Intent (#0)
As may be typical of Canadians I came out as a centrist, tending to conservative-libertarian. Similarly on Political Compass:www.politicalcompass.org/test

Tatarewicz posted on 2011-02-11 22:40:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: Original_Intent (#21)
To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?

Totalitarianism is an entity in its own right and exists within Gov'ts throughout the world, whether Communist, Fascist or so-called Democracies. There is no distinction between Communist, Fascist or Democracy once a Totalitarian gov't has been installed. Are there any here that still believe we live in a Democracy?
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
angK posted on 2011-02-14 17:35:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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