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Title: Helen Thomas, 89 gang banged by pussies in MSM (My Title)
Source: TIMESONLINE
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne ... nd_americas/article7145664.ece
Published: Jun 8, 2010
Author: Giles Lickspittle (Pussy)
Post Date: 2010-06-08 06:42:28 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 490
Comments: 64

It is always dangerous for a reporter to become the story. For Helen Thomas, two months before her 90th birthday, it has meant the end of her career.

The daughter of Lebanese immigrants who could neither read nor write, Ms Thomas was covering the White House 11 years before its current spokesman was born. Yesterday she resigned in disgrace after telling a Jewish online news service that Jews should “get the hell out of Palestine” and “go home”.

In the final outburst of a career spanning seven decades and ten presidents, Ms Thomas appeared not to know, or not to care, that she was talking to a rabbi on the day of the White House’s official celebration of Jewish American Heritage Month last week.

Related Links Obama shares birthday wishes with White House reporter Israeli patrol kills four Palestinian militants Israeli troops board aid ship bound for Gaza “Any comments on Israel?” she was asked. “Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine,” she replied.

Prompted to say something more positive in the spirit of the occasion, the 89 year-old dean of the White House Press Corps said: “Remember, these people are occupied and it’s their land. It’s not Germans’. It’s not Poland’s.”

Her remarks were scarcely reported at first, but when posted on the Drudge Report website at the weekend they provoked a storm of controversy in which outraged accusations of anti-Semitism quickly drowned out defenders of free speech.

Ms Thomas issued a blanket apology on Sunday, saying she deeply regretted comments that did not reflect her heartfelt hopes for peace in the Middle East through “mutual respect and tolerance”, but her statement came too late. Yesterday Robert Gibbs, President Obama’s spokesman, called her remarks offensive and reprehensible.

Addressing a White House briefing room in which Ms Thomas was conspicuously absent from her normal front-row seat, Mr Gibbs added: “Obviously those remarks do not reflect the opinions of most of the people in here, and certainly not of the Administration.”

Her resignation as a columnist for the Hearst newspaper group was announced minutes later.

Ms Thomas, who shares a birthday with Mr Obama, was photographed next to him in her customary seat on her last birthday, with a presidential arm round her shoulder and a gift of White House cupcakes in her lap.

For most of her career, presidents have regarded her more with wary respect than with affection.

She was an avowed admirer of President Kennedy, admitting in later years that she wept as she phoned in her story on his assassination from one of the White House payphones to her then employer, the UPI news agency. But Mr Kennedy’s successor, Lyndon B. Johnson, called her “a mixture of acupuncture and journalism”.

No administration felt the sharp end of her questioning more frequently than that of the younger President Bush, whom she described in the run-up to the Iraq war as “the worst president in American history”. At Mr Bush’s next press conference she was seated in the back row and not called on to ask a question.

She later received a conciliatory note from Mr Bush and was reinstated in the front row, where her first question for the President was: “Why did we go to war?” As she later told an interviewer: “Again I was in the dog house. Deep freeze this time.”

Mr Bush’s former press secretary, Ari Fleischer, led calls over the weekend for her to be fired. He accused her of advocating “religious cleansing” and argued that “if a journalist, or a columnist, said the same thing about blacks or Hispanics they would already have lost their jobs”.

By yesterday morning Ms Thomas had been dropped by her speaker’s bureau, disowned by the co-author of her latest book and called an “anti-Semitic bigot” by Lanny Davis, a former close friend and Clinton administration lawyer.

She had also agreed not to give a graduation ceremony address as planned at a high school in suburban Maryland where one parent predicted she would have been booed off the stage.

She was not entirely without defenders. Joe Lockhart, President Clinton’s former spokesman, said: “I hope we are strong enough as a country to sustain voices that are wrong, voices that offend, even voices that incite.”

Ms Thomas appears to have been enraged by the Obama Administration’s largely passive response to the killing of nine people in a Turkish flotilla bound for Gaza ten days ago – and by what she considered her colleagues’ timid reporting of that response.

The question of pro-Israeli bias in American reporting of the Middle East had resurfaced in the aftermath of the flotilla attack, when questions were raised by both Palestinians and the Public Editor of the New York Times about the newspaper’s Jerusalem bureau chief, Ethan Bronner, whose son serves in the Israeli Defence Forces.

So far the paper has resisted calls for Mr Bronner to be reassigned.

Asked in 2008 what she thought of the rest of the White House press corps, she said she hoped it would eventually emerge from its collective coma.

The wit and wisdom of Helen Thomas

“I think I’ll work all my life. When you’re having fun, why stop having fun?”

Unsourced, but widely published quote

“You said that the President deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent lives in the world? And I have a follow-up... My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent Iraqis?”

From a question to Ari Fleischer, George W. Bush’s spokesman, at the daily press briefing in 2003

“This is the worst President ever. [George W. Bush] is the worst President in all of American history.”

From a January 2003 Society for Professional Journalism event when Ms Thomas thought she was off the record

“The day Dick Cheney is going to run for president, I’ll kill myself. All we need is another liar... ”

“You don’t spread democracy through the barrel of a gun.”

In an interview with Jon Stewart of The Daily Show in June 2006

“Every president hates the Press. Every president thinks that all information that comes to the White House is their private preserve after they all promise an open administration on the campaign trail.”

In an April 2004 interview with The Majority Report

“Both Blair and Bush have been found lacking in their credibility. Usually by this time a government would have fallen. I covered two presidents, LBJ and Nixon, who could no longer convince, persuade, or govern, once people had decided they had no credibility, but we seem to be more tolerant now of what I think we should not tolerate.”

From the same April 2004 Majority Report interview

“There’s no accountability for a blogger. They can ruin lives, reputations, and once you send something into the air, it’s going to land, and there’s nothing that can curb them from saying anything they want. Everybody with a laptop thinks they’re a journalist, and everybody with a cellphone thinks they’re a photographer.”

On new media to The Daily Beast reporter Lloyd Grove, published April 2010


Poster Comment:

3 Cheers for Helen Thomas, the only White House reporter with the spine necessary to be honest about the occupation of Palestine by the trespassing, murdering, shit eating Jews from Eastern Europe. The entire MSM (Including Glenn Buck and his Israeli asswiping comrades on the radio) gang raped the elder journalist all day long yesterday, but the old dame's integrity held and she will be remembered in history as a Gutsy and honest reporter.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I was nauseous listening to Beck and his crew of lapdogs whine, rant and whip up anger towards an 89 year old lady with more nerve than Beck's entire staff of Jew ass kissers.

At one point Beck asked "don't you (the audience) have any Jewish friends" ?

What the fuck does that have to do with the zionazi genocide of Palestinians going on in Israel/Palestine ?

The emotional attachment that one might have with a Jew as a friend has no bearing upon the reality in Palestine.

What's more, most of these Ashkenazi "Jews" are in truth gentile converts ... and don't even know it.

Oh yeah, and fuck Ari Fleischer, professional liar and zionazi suck-poop !

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting". YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-08   7:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#0)

Don't be surprised if Helen Thomas gets offered a job by Al-Jazeera or some other Arab propaganda outlet to be their "distinguished American journalist" on display.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-08   7:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#2)

Don't be surprised if Helen Thomas gets offered a job by Al-Jazeera or some other Arab propaganda outlet

This insinuation isn't justified ... and I don't believe she would accept the offer if made.

Helen is over due for retirement and now is as good a time as ever for her to do so.

Maybe she'll write a tell all book ...bet she knows where some skeletons are "closeted" !

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting". YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-08   7:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222, all (#1)

I bet this isn't the last we hear from Ms Thomas. She can still do some real damage to them. Or she can take it easy because she earned it.

She knew what she was doing. She's no bright eyed newbie. She lived in and worked in that shit-filled kike infested sewer for many years.

But who will take her place? I don't know if there is anyone out there with enough balls to do what she did.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-08   7:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#0)

3 Cheers for Helen Thomas

Funny how ol' Helen is suddenly so popular with some folks. LOL.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   7:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PSUSA (#4)

Ms Thomas

LOL.

Dude, she's a horrible old nasty hag, just a total hack. She was Joe Kennedy's whore.

But she says a few words against Israel and suddenly all that is forgotten.

She was awful all along. She still is.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   7:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#6)

The Vincent Foster Op-ed Contest (Redux)

"Vincent Foster is not the only clinton murder victim, either. .... Helen Thomas, of all people, noted out loud that a rug was missing. ..."

www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1318127/posts

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-08   7:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#5)

Funny how ol' Helen is suddenly so popular with some folks. LOL.

Not really.

It wasnt just her comments on the kikes. It was also the warn' terra BS that she had problems with, and Klintons' shenanigans.

Before that, I don't remember much about her.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-08   7:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#8)

It was also the warn' terra BS that she had problems with, and Klintons' shenanigans.

She was a hard Left ideologue, hence her loathing for Xlinton. Not that she'd ever do anything but hack and slash at any and all Republicans. And it got her readership, just as exploiting the mentally ill Martha Mitchell did in the Seventies.

She is one of the worst scumbags in the media, worse than Dan Rather. Good heavens, she worked for Hearst, the inventors of yellow journalism a hundred years ago.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   8:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#0)

Title: Helen Thomas, 89 gang banged by pussies in MSM (My Title)

That title was awesome.   :)

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   8:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#7)

To: Baynative

One theory has it that Vince left the White House rolled in a rug, which made it difficult for him to sign out (and he wasn't exactly camera-ready). Helen Thomas, of all people, noted out loud that a rug was missing. If memory serves, carpet fibers were found all over poor Vince. He coulda been a contendah.

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Nice catch!

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-08   8:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#11)

u remember that don't u?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-08   8:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itistoolate (#12)

u remember that don't u?

Yep. Vince: His car made it to the park before he did

I forget nothing.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-08   8:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#0)

Ms Thomas appeared not to know, or not to care, that she was talking to a rabbi on the day of the White House’s official celebration of Jewish American Heritage Month last week.

*gasp*

Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-06-08   11:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#5)

Funny how ol' Helen is suddenly so popular with some folks.

Leftism is no obstacle to election.

Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-06-08   11:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#5)

3 Cheers for Helen Thomas
Funny how ol' Helen is suddenly so popular with some folks. LOL.

Shall we rally around her sharing a little truth instead of her historic scumbagness.

Seems like some are attacking the messenger.

Truth has a way about finding light.

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wakeup  posted on  2010-06-08   11:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wakeup (#16) (Edited)

Seems like some are attacking the messenger.

Of course. She's a total hack and a hag.

I don't care what opinion you might have, if Helen Thomas is the answer then you are asking the wrong questions. Having Helen on your side is never a plus.

Truth has a way about finding light.

Not if Helen's is assigned to report on it.

Dude, she reeks! She always did. Skanky old whore.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   13:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#17)

I don't care what opinion you might have, if Helen Thomas is the answer then you are asking the wrong questions. Having Helen on your side is never a plus.

I agree one hundred percent. Having said that, this LP idea that everyone that dislikes Israel is a leftist Muslim sympathizer is as bat shit crazy as the idea that George Bush's brand of "conservatism" (what conservatism?) was and is good for the country.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   13:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#17)

This is what I wanted to say as well. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Especially in this case. This broad was locked at the hip with every tyrant to come down the pike, and happily so. Thanks, but no thanks.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-08   13:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

this LP idea that everyone that dislikes Israel is a leftist Muslim sympathizer is as bat shit crazy as the idea that George Bush's brand of "conservatism" (what conservatism?) was and is good for the country.

that

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   13:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#20)

that

???

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   13:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#17)

She's a total hack and a hag.

How so?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   13:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

Having said that, this LP idea that everyone that dislikes Israel is a leftist Muslim sympathizer is as bat shit crazy

True enough. Disliking Israel doesn't mean you have to embrace the repulsive Palis. They are deservedly considered pariahs throughout the Mideast, always were.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   13:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)

This is what I wanted to say as well. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Especially in this case. This broad was locked at the hip with every tyrant to come down the pike, and happily so. Thanks, but no thanks.

She reminded me of the hacks like Durante that worked for the NYTimes and gave loving reviews of the greatness of the Soviet state back in the Thirties. And he was idolized too.

She was an awful journalist and anti-American and a hard Lefty propagandist and tabloid writer. Her opinions on Israel don't help or hurt her career, awful as it was.

What really surprises me is the total surprise of the Beltway elite who were suddenly so shocked to discover the truth about hold Helen of Thomas. Now they all have to write a dozen stories about it. The truth about her was plain all along.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-08   14:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#21)

iow, i agree.

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   14:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#23)

True enough. Disliking Israel doesn't mean you have to embrace the repulsive Palis. They are deservedly considered pariahs throughout the Mideast, always were.

If a foreign body like the League of Nations or the UN told the various American Indian tribes that they could have my home and then armed them so that they could remove me by force, then I would be doing the same exact thing that the Palestinians are doing, minus using my children as suicide bombers.

I don't blame them a bit. The European Jews should have never been given land that didn't belong to them.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   14:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative (#23)

how can you say that the entire population of Palestinians, including women and children, are and always have been repulsive? are they not human beings? what makes them "deserved" pariahs?

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   14:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#26)

i'd like to know the statistics of Palestinians using their children as suicide bombers compared to those of other nations.

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   14:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#28)

i'd like to know the statistics of Palestinians using their children as suicide bombers compared to those of other nations.

I have no idea what the statistics are but one is too many for me. If they want to kill Israeli's that bad, then they should strap the bomb vests on themselves, not send their children to do it.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   14:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine, F.A. Hayek Fan (#28)

Palestinians using their children as suicide bombers

Are we to rely on IDF reports for this information?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   14:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: TooConservative (#24)

She was an awful journalist and anti-American and a hard Lefty propagandist and tabloid writer.

The truth about her was plain all along.

How?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   14:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#30)

Are we to rely on IDF reports for this information?

I look at the Israeli government like I do the American government. If either told me it was sunny outside, I'd look out the window for verification. Neither can be trusted to tell the truth.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   14:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Shoonra (#32)

Israeli government American government

The fact that they say it, by itself, is enough reason for me to think it's probably a lie.

Look at this other thread with Shoonra referring to the idf as 'inspectors' and Turks as 'arabs'.

No shortage of stupid people...

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." ~ Winston Churchill


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   14:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: wudidiz (#33) (Edited)

The fact that they say it, by itself, is enough reason for me to think it's probably a lie.

Look at this other thread with Shoonra referring to the idf as 'inspectors' and Turks as 'arabs'.

Yeah I seen that thread. Shoonra is an outspoken Israeli-firster. She does her country proud at the expense of the United States.

As for Israel making the claim of the Palestinians using children as suicide bombers, they don't have to. I've seen the videos of their kids in the vests and I've seen the videos the kids have made prior to blowing themselves up and the videos of their parents bragging how proud they are after wards.

I say kids, when I should say young men and young women. While I have seen videos and pictures with children wearing fake bomb vests, I am unaware of a child actually blowing himself up.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   14:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#34)

I don't have much time right now, but I have looked this stuff up before and it's quite interesting when looked at closer. Here's one link I found so far:

justifiedtype.wordpress.c...icide-bombers-the-dimona- incident/

I can find more later maybe. With pictures.

"By way of deception we shall wage war."


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   14:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wudidiz (#35)

Very interesting. Thank you for the link.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   14:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)

Glad you liked it. Like I say and as I'm sure you can imagine, there's more.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   14:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: wudidiz (#37) (Edited)

Glad you liked it. Like I say and as I'm sure you can imagine, there's more.

I don't know if like is the appropriate word, but the article definitely brought to light information that I was unaware of, made some very good points and asked valid questions that I had never thought of.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-08   15:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wudidiz (#30)

my thought exactly.

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   15:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#38)

Well at least you were interested. : )

Remember those suicide vests found inside a compound in the green zone?

How tf did they get there?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   15:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine, F.A. Hayek Fan (#39)

I have to run, but will be happy to continue this discussion later.

I am of the opinion that most if not all of the "suicide" bombings are false flag.

Mossad/Hamas(Mossad)


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-08   15:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TooConservative, All (#23)

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565#

Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict

1:19:14 - 3 years ago Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites--oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others--work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported.

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   15:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine, F.A. Hayek Fan, wudidiz (#28)

i'd like to know the statistics of Palestinians using their children as suicide bombers compared to those of other nations.

About the same - ZERO.

Outside of one or two photos of a child dressed up in a fake vest, reposted and spammed over and over and over again, there are NO recorded instances of a child being used as a suicide bomber. The few women credited with it were grown women and generally have had one or more close family members murdered by the Israelis.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-08   15:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)

wish you were able to watch the film i posted. it's outstanding.

christine  posted on  2010-06-08   16:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: christine (#44) (Edited)

Unfortunately being on dial-up makes it virtually impossible to watch anything but the shortest clips.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-08   16:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#14)

The poor Rabbi was shocked by Ms. Thomas' quick and to the point of fact response. So much so that he pulled his circumcision blade and cut off the interview !

Y'all prolly thought I might say a nasty ... hehehehehe !!!

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting". YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-09   6:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TooConservative (#10)

That title was awesome. :)

Gee thanks ... :)

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting". YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-09   7:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TooConservative (#23) (Edited)

They are deservedly considered pariahs throughout the Mideast, always were.

Blanket statements like this are made by pariahs. (Usually Zionazi Pariahs).

The Palestinians weren't even discussed for the 2000 years they lived in Palestine with a small minority of Jews. It wasn't until the Jews tried to do to the Palestinians what the Mexicans are trying to do here in the U.S. that the Palestinians we described as whatever negative term the Jewish press felt would demonize them best.

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting". YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-09   10:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: TooConservative (#23)

ping to my #25.

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   16:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)

This is what I wanted to say as well. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Especially in this case. This broad was locked at the hip with every tyrant to come down the pike, and happily so. Thanks, but no thanks.

I agree. Helen Thomas is no friend of America.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-09   16:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#17)

if Helen Thomas is the answer

it's a stupid effin' question!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-09   17:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine, TooConservative, all (#42)

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565#

I watched the whole thing last night.

I strongly suggest anyone who is at all interested in the Middle East Conflict should watch it.

Definitely well worth the 80 minutes.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-09   17:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: noone222, James Deffenbach, All (#52)

Ping to my previous post.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-09   17:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#49)

ping to my #25.

I hadn't noticed somehow. Helen Thomas was 50 years of bad news, no matter where you stand on Israel.

Tolerating hacks like that is one reason why the public in this country is poorly served by news media.

We have wall-to-wall media coverage of lots of nothing. We have tons of news but very little reporting.

What we really need to do is get rid of all of the hacks like Helen Thomas. Not because they make a gaffe but because they're hacks.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-09   20:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: wudidiz (#52)

agreed!

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   20:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: TooConservative (#54)

oops. i meant #27.

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   20:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: wudidiz (#52)

I watched the first 43 minutes ... I was already convinced but the information is great.

YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-09   20:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine (#56)

oops. i meant #27.

Ah, I see. Turning back to #27:

how can you say that the entire population of Palestinians, including women and children, are and always have been repulsive? are they not human beings? what makes them "deserved" pariahs?

The Palis are a victimized and radicalized population, victimized by Israel, the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Saudis, etc. As for leadership, Arafat, the PLO, Hamas, it's all bad. The Palis were always held in low regard in the region under the British colonial regime as well.

It's easy to get into a Israel-bad-Palis-good attitude. But maybe they're both bad, of no interest to America, and not worth another dollar in aid.

I don't get the weeping over the Palis. I see all parties to this conflict (the entire Mideast) to be despicable characters. They really are not our concern.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-09   22:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: TooConservative, 4 (#58)

I see all parties to this conflict (the entire Mideast) to be despicable characters. They really are not our concern.

Correct, and I would extend your unconcern to the rest of the globe.

Bring'em home and fix our own shit.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-09   22:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59)

Lod  posted on  2010-06-09   22:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TooConservative (#58)

I don't get the weeping over the Palis.

100 Billion of American tax dollars went to funding an illegal State (Israel) that is imposing an arguably evil program of systematic torture, impisonment and extermination of an entire Nation of people (Palestine).

What's not to get?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-09   22:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: TooConservative (#58) (Edited)

I see all parties to this conflict (the entire Mideast) to be despicable characters. They really are not our concern.

i agree. i'm pretty much an isolationist.

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   23:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Lod (#59)

Correct, and I would extend your unconcern to the rest of the globe.

Bring'em home and fix our own shit.

Exactly.

Cheering for or against either side makes it easier for the pols to sell people on the idea of ever-increasing foreign aid and international meddling.

People can cheer on either side all they want. Just don't do it with our tax dollars or arsenal.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-09   23:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#62)

i agree. i'm pretty much an isolationist.

Generally, me too. I do recognize foreign threats where we might intervene but those are few and far between. We haven't done much worthwhile with our military in the last fifty years.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-09   23:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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