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Title: HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS! (its past time claire )
Source: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com
URL Source: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepu ... 320abu0rl0&topic=3017.msg14125
Published: Feb 27, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-02-27 00:13:35 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: china, EMINENT DOMAIN, U.S. DEBTS, libertrians
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FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS! Beijing, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.

I am endeavoring to obtain images or copies of the actual document but in the interim, several different sources both in the US and in China have CONFIRMED this to me.

More details as they become available. . . . . spread the word ASAP.

-------------- UPDATE 1:40 pm EST

Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.

Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!

Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.

Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario. . . . . .

The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt. "

With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.

The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!!

China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?

For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000.

Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China.

You'll lose.

People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China!

This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence.

------------- SECOND UPDATE 3:48 PM

In early February nine U.S. States began the process of re-asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.

At the time, I wrote about those state efforts (Here) and wondered why so many states were taking-up such an arcane issue in such a seemingly urgent fashion. I guess now, we know why.

The states were obviously privy to what the feds were planning to do with granting Eminent Domain to China. The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves!

This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.

Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play. Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#1. To: All, *Shooters*, *Music Club*, *LEAP*, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Humor-Weird News*, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

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but the sheiks would shriek and the barons would bellow if hemp was made legal...and people became mellow

freepatriot32  posted on  2009-02-27   0:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

The source is Hal Turner so it may not be true.

halturnershow.blogspot.com/

christine  posted on  2009-02-27   0:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#2)

Yeah I'd like to see some "proof".


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-27   1:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Forgot his name, but I heard a guy predict this future possibility I think back in the 70s..it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-27   5:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#2)

Hal Turner is very likely an FBI agent provocateur. I remember thinking this even when I first heard him on shortwave around 1999 or so. He's just too "over the top" in terms of his racism. It was almost as if he was satirizing a stereotypical Southern Klansman, only he had a New Jersey accent.

Hal Turner: FBI Agent Provocateur?

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-27   7:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#5)

Hal Turner could be a little green man from Mars but it still doesn't discount the possibilty of the truth of the story.

Why are they trying to disarm us? Why are states asserting states rights?

Lady X  posted on  2009-02-27   8:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lady X, Sam Houston, all (#6) (Edited)

I have no idea who is or isn't a provocateur. I do wonder why Turner is off the air if he is a fed. Couldn't the gov. have tossed him a few hundred a month he needed to keep his garage radio show on the air?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-27   8:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Will pass on this load.

A few months ago China did tell Bushstein they were tired of paper and wanted something of material value. Many translated that as being land/real estate and or GOLD.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   9:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

Yeah, it's called collateral. Why wouldn't they want it? Our paper is worthless and they know it.

Lady X  posted on  2009-02-27   9:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#8)

Many translated that as being land/real estate and or GOLD.

I read yesterday where a few boatloads of Yellow Reds scrambled off some boats in LA and began buying all the distressed homes they could get their mangy commie hands on. The funny thing is they'd probably make for better neighbors than the illegals, and they'd be right at home as far as California politics.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-27   9:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

As I recall it, he went off the air voluntarily right after the hacker exposed his back channel to the FBI.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-27   9:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull. the thread (#10)

I don't believe that the sos has any such authority.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-27   9:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull, scrapper2 (#10)

China basically owns this country, cows, farm and all.

This government charges on, expanding our war effort and enlarging our Army, for what??????

Instead of expanding, the only solutions available for this country are revolution, totally disband and incarcerate this government, or contraction by withdrawing within our boundaries and starting over again.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   9:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Sam Houston (#11)

You might have him 100% right, Sam, I only know what I read and hear. We can only guess who's who in the zoo, and that's exactly what THEY want.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-27   9:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom. all (#13)

fedgov will not gladly go back inside their ten square miles...

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-27   9:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lodwick (#15)

Regardless of how partisan citizens look at it, during the primaries it was obvious that the voters were all in favor of more war and an expanded government.

Well, now we have both and I hope the voters can live with their legitimizing for four more years this criminal government.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   9:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lodwick (#15)

fedgov will not gladly go back inside their ten square miles...

That is the only place they have absolute authority. If they venture out of it they should be pitch forked.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-27   9:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Old Friend (#17)

If they venture out of it they should be pitch forked.

Is that nice?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   10:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Is that nice?

Yes. Wacking thieves and murderers is very nice.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-27   10:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Old Friend. all (#17)

That is the only place they have absolute authority. If they venture out of it they should be pitch forked.

If only we'd made that the policy two hundred years ago.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-27   10:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Old Friend (#19)

The government knows full well that they are in charge because 130 million patriotic Americans reinstalled with full blessings.

At the slightest sign of restlessness by the natives, they are fully prepared to use the iron fist of the law, thanks to Bushstein.

Americans did nothing after Ruby Ridge and Waco so these criminals know there is no limits as to what repression they might take.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   10:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: freepatriot32, All (#0)

Is this on top of the 800 Billion AMEROS we already shipped to the chicomms ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   10:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom, Old Friend, All (#21)

The government knows full well that they are in charge because 130 million patriotic Americans reinstalled with full blessings.

Even 4umers voted for the selected nominee puppets.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   10:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#23)

Even 4umers voted for the selected nominee puppets.

McCain voted against the new stimulus. There was a difference. To bad we took the more wicked path.

That doesn't mean I like McCain though. Because I don't.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-27   10:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rotara (#23)

Even 4umers voted for the selected nominee puppets.

In this age of communication, it is beyond comprehension as to why the citizens voted for more war and bigger government.

They returned people to Washington that have been sitting there for 40 years or more. What on earth is the matter with the voters?

It goes beyond stupidity...to me it is a positive indication that the programming going on for years has paid off and is a total success.

Voting for more war, more taxes and less freedom is beyond belief.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   10:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Old Friend (#24)

I can't believe you still buy in. mcKein was safe to oppose, he's safe to pretend to be what he's not now.

I like you but you're pretty damned gullible. Putting it nicely.

Pull yer head out and keep your powder dry, would ya ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   11:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom, All (#25)

In this age of communication, it is beyond comprehension as to why the citizens voted for more war and bigger government.

They returned people to Washington that have been sitting there for 40 years or more. What on earth is the matter with the voters?

It goes beyond stupidity...to me it is a positive indication that the programming going on for years has paid off and is a total success.

Voting for more war, more taxes and less freedom is beyond belief.

The matrix sucks and is nice to bitch about, but it's still 'safe' because no one wants to believe the Grand Conspiracy which is afoot and practically sealed now.

Anyone that wants to know the truth needs to read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" STAT.

Then they will realize that when they see a CFR candidate on both sides of the bill - candidates that hang tight with/in Bilderberg-Trilateral Commission members - the game is rigged from a higher place.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   11:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rotara (#26)

I can't believe you still buy in. mcKein was safe to oppose, he's safe to pretend to be what he's not now.

I like you but you're pretty damned gullible. Putting it nicely.

Pull yer head out and keep your powder dry, would ya ?

I think McCain sucked ass. But Obama sucks ass and goat dick.

The path wouldn't have been identical as the one we are now on.

It still would have sucked but not as bad.

Can you agree with that?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-27   11:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#21)

Americans did nothing after Ruby Ridge and Waco

Or Gordon Kahl. Any one of those incidents should have been enough to light the fuse but nothing happened other than to make the government keep going farther and farther to see how much people would take. And the answer seems to be "a lot."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-27   14:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rotara. non-voters here (#23)

I don't know how many, but those of us who have finally seen through the two-party charade, refused to participate in November.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-27   15:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

This criminal government is now much stronger and better equipped to suppress any and all dissent than any time in our history.

Lincoln ran wild with his efforts, just think what Obongo or his successor could do?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   15:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#31)

Yeah, I know you're right and don't know of any sane person who would relish a civil war in which many good people would die. While it could be winnable (if done in the same way and with the same intent and reliance on God as it was with the founders), it wouldn't be a walk in the park for either side.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-27   15:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

it wouldn't be a walk in the park for either side.

No but I am for it.

To slay a dragon, you need to cut off its HEAD not its tail.

Look how Germany, Italy, Russia and China changed after their heads were removed.

Waiting for the grim reaper to do our work is no longer an option.

Lincoln the tyrant said it all in 1848, the people have a right and a duty to remove a government that is no longer the servant of the people.

The love of POWER keeps that 500 plus criminals in Washington.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-27   15:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

I can't disagree with anything you said there. And Washington sure has become a monster, there is no escaping that fact.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-27   15:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lodwick (#12)

I don't believe that the sos has any such authority.

I would agree with you if so many things weren't being operated outside of the Constitutional bounds we "imagine" exist. The thing I see is that anything goes in the "fictional" world where FRNs are the coin (currency) of the realm. In "their" fictional world they're able to "legally" create "any scenario" they choose.

I don't put any validity in Hal Turner's remarks.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

General Smedley Butler

noone222  posted on  2009-02-27   16:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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