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Title: Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination
Source: The LRC Blog
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020719.html
Published: Apr 26, 2008
Author: Eric A. Garris
Post Date: 2008-04-26 14:33:38 by James Deffenbach
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Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination Posted by Eric A. Garris at April 26, 2008 10:11 AM
The Constitution Party just overwhelmingly defeated the warmongering neocon Alan Keyes by nominating Chuck Baldwin, 383 to 125.
Last night, CP founder Howard Phillips strongly denounced Keyes as a warmonger, neocon, and egomanic. Phillips was subsequently attacked by Jim Clymer, the CP national chairman.
In spite of Keyes bringing in a lot of delegates, the CP remained true to their anti-interventionist views and rejected Keyes.
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#39. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Last night, CP founder Howard Phillips strongly denounced Keyes as a warmonger, neocon, and egomanic. Phillips was subsequently attacked by Jim Clymer, the CP national chairman.
In spite of Keyes bringing in a lot of delegates, the CP remained true to their anti-interventionist views and rejected Keyes.

This is wonderful news. I didn't know how right this is until I saw Keyes in an interview.
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IndieTX posted on 2008-04-26 15:38:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: who knows what evil (#8) (Edited)
am one of the few who can say that I am STILL proud of the vote I cast in 2004 for the Peroutka/Baldwin ticket...they didn't win, but I have a CLEAN conscience.

You and me both can sleep at night. What if Baldwin chooses RP at his VP!???????????!!!!!!!
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IndieTX posted on 2008-04-26 15:40:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: FOH (#37)
I will be SUPREMELY surprised if Ron Paul endorses Barr over Baldwin...of course, not much surprises me anymore, so strike that.

Same here.
We could see Paul endorse McAsshole before this is over I suppose.
No way. He would kill the credibility of all future endorsements, and perhaps that of up and coming candidates that wanted to follow in his footsteps. I just honestly can not see it, ever. Never ever. Ever. Nope. Sorry. No cigar. Zip.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 15:40:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: IndieTX (#40)
What if Baldwin chooses RP at his VP!?

That would be sweet, but I'm guessing there's some law in place that would disenfranchise Dr Paul from his run at his seat in Congress. I agree with his stance that losing that seat would open up the opportunity for the neocons to use it as a hectoring tool. "Voters reject soveriegnty", all that customary nonsense.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 15:47:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: who knows what evil (#8)
I am one of the few who can say that I am STILL proud of the vote I cast in 2004 for the Peroutka/Baldwin ticket...they didn't win, but I have a CLEAN conscience.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 15:50:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: IndieTX (#39)
This is wonderful news.

Do you know Malatesta? If you're in TX, you should get to know him...

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 15:50:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Dakmar (#42)
That would be sweet, but I'm guessing there's some law in place that would disenfranchise Dr Paul from his run at his seat in Congress. I agree with his stance that losing that seat would open up the opportunity for the neocons to use it as a hectoring tool. "Voters reject soveriegnty", all that customary nonsense.

Ah, but he could be a cabinet member!

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 15:51:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Peppa (#41)
From your lips...

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 15:52:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: Peppa (#45)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 15:53:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: Peppa (#45)
Ah, but he could be a cabinet member!

He would be better able serve the people and a Baldwin administration as a congressman rather than as a cabinet member.
Tagline space for rent.
Critter posted on 2008-04-26 15:55:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Dakmar, *Chuck Baldwin President 2008* (#42)
That would be sweet, but I'm guessing there's some law in place that would disenfranchise Dr Paul from his run at his seat in Congress. I agree with his stance that losing that seat would open up the opportunity for the neocons to use it as a hectoring tool. "Voters reject soveriegnty", all that customary nonsense.

Ron Paul has already taken the Establishment's best shot in that District race.
It would be SWEET if the bass turds meet in Minnesota and continue to pile on Ron Paul and his delegates.
Then, Ron can walk away having won AND having stuck it to them, finally, at the Convention...IMO

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 15:55:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: All (#49)

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 15:58:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: FOH (#49) (Edited)
It would be SWEET if the bass turds meet in Minnesota and continue to pile on Ron Paul and his delegates.
Then, Ron can walk away having won AND having stuck it to them, finally, at the Convention...IMO

Won the battle but lost the war? Not good enough, I once mailed the mayor of my town a box of cockroaches, gross but fun, let's all do the same.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 15:59:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: Dakmar (#47)
whew... You know what I thought was coming..
Nerve center, nervous speaking.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 16:00:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: Critter (#48)
He would be better able serve the people and a Baldwin administration as a congressman rather than as a cabinet member.

Good point. Move the Presidents agenda.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 16:01:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Dakmar (#51)
There's no war to win being the lone voice in the House of Representatives, imo...a Baldwin/Paul ticket might be a way of getting around Ron Paul not being able to run for POTUS as a pubbie in some 8 or so States.
A Baldwin/Paul ticket is probably out of the realm of possibility, most likely because Ron is not up for it, but it would certainly garner a heckuva lot of votes imo.
No real Ron Paul-American can support or vote for McHillObama...

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 16:02:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: FOH (#44)
Bryan Malatesta

I know of him but I've never met him.
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IndieTX posted on 2008-04-26 16:03:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Peppa (#53)
You have to WIN first!!
There should be plenty of little Paul-people that are running and hopefully at least one can win and take "Ron's spot" in Congress as the lone dissenter...

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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 16:03:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: IndieTX (#55)
He's a good one to get to know for many great reasons...

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 16:04:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
I go back to one, Michael New, and Keyes saying he'd jail him for refusing to take orders from a UN military commander.

And when Alan Keyes made that stupid statement he relegated himself to the bottom of the barrel with the rest of the scum for me. Michael New is a hero and the country needs more men like him, not fewer.
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James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 16:07:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: James Deffenbach (#58)
And when Alan Keyes made that stupid statement he relegated himself to the bottom of the barrel with the rest of the scum for me. Michael New is a hero and the country needs more men like him, not fewer.

BTTT!

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 16:11:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: FOH (#56) (Edited)
You have to WIN first!!

That is an important detail..:)
There should be plenty of little Paul-people that are running and hopefully at least one can win and take "Ron's spot" in Congress as the lone dissenter...
One bridge at a time.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 16:26:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: Peppa (#60)
Right now, I'm just thankful that the CP didn't cave to the Alanoids...THANK YOU LORD!

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 16:31:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: FOH (#18)
"They just rejected the most qualified man to be president," said Tom Hoefling of Lohrville, Iowa, Keyes' national political director. "Chuck Baldwin will have no impact on this election whatsoever."

Dang, that kid looks like someone kicked his best puppy and stole his ice cream.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 16:52:32 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: FOH (#61)
Right now, I'm just thankful that the CP didn't cave to the Alanoids...THANK YOU LORD!

I've learned more about Keyes here, than I ever thought I knew before. This recap of him 'holding court' etc., corked it.
We have squandered too much blood and treasure, for another narcissistic egomaniac. Thanks but no thanks.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 16:55:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: Peppa (#63)
I fell for it first 20 years ago...

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:20:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
"Chuck Baldwin will have no impact on this election whatsoever."

Get the feeling that AK and 'his people' will see to that, just like they saw to taking out the long knives on Ron Paul?
vigilance, eternal

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:23:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: FOH (#64)
I fell for it first 20 years ago...

We're all here by various paths, and maybe it's for a reason.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 17:26:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: FOH (#65)
Get the feeling that AK and 'his people' will see to that, just like they saw to taking out the long knives on Ron Paul?

Well, if you take the votes that Chuck will probably get and those that Ron will probably get, assuming they are counted, I would say that it would make a difference. A big difference in a close election. I think whoever says that men like Chuck Baldwin and Ron Paul "won't make any difference" are whistling past the graveyard.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 17:28:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: Peppa (#66)
You could be onto something there!
BTW, SP#1207...they do NOT kill Kenny !!

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:28:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: James Deffenbach (#67)
Well, if you take the votes that Chuck will probably get and those that Ron will probably get, assuming they are counted, I would say that it would make a difference. A big difference in a close election. I think whoever says that men like Chuck Baldwin and Ron Paul "won't make any difference" are whistling past the graveyard.

Can RP release his delegates to Baldwin?

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 17:30:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: FOH (#68)
BTW, SP#1207...they do NOT kill Kenny !!

LOL!!!
They recently had a Best Of marathon prior to the new season kickoff. The episode of JLo the puppet cracked me up.

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 17:32:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: James Deffenbach (#67)
I agree

Chuck Baldwin will be the next canary in the coal mine of Constitutional America...God bless him for being willing to get out there and make the run!
That we have a choice and Party that with clear conscience we can register our support for limited/Constitutional governance, anti-war, freedom-minded, liberty-loving people at the top...not to mention leading anti-NAUer H. Phillips...I say REGISTER OUR VOICE AGAINST THE CABAL with Baldwin for President!

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:33:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: Peppa (#69)
Can RP release his delegates to Baldwin?

Don't much see how he could. Ron's delegates will be at the R convention and Chuck will be heading the Constitution Party. Of course if the CP has their convention AFTER the R's have theirs I would imagine Ron's delegates would be free to support anyone they wanted to.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 17:33:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: Peppa (#70)
"Major B**bage" is really good and "Canada on strike" is pretty funny as well...imo ;) Good for a laugh now anagain.

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:35:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: Peppa (#70)
"Jelsic, walk with me. Jelsic, dance with me. Jelsic, kiss my mouth."
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 17:36:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: James Deffenbach, Peppa (#72)
Chuck Baldwin was nominated as and has in fact accepted the Constitution Party Convention's nomination in Kansas City today...

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:36:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: FOH (#75)
Chuck Baldwin was nominated as and has in fact accepted the Constitution Party Convention's nomination in Kansas City today...

At least those of us who refuse to vote for the "lesser of two evils" will have someone we can vote for in good conscience assuming the CP makes ballot status where we live.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 17:37:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: christine, ALL (#75)
I hearby move that 4um link to the Constitution Party and throw our support officially from Ron Paul and the GOP and to Chuck Baldwin and a REAL 3rd Party for Constitutional-Conservative-minded governance! Banners, the whole works!

Can I get a 2nd? an Amen?!

What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
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FOH posted on 2008-04-26 17:39:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: FOH (#75)
Chuck Baldwin was nominated as and has in fact accepted the Constitution Party Convention's nomination in Kansas City today...

Why do I suspect my endorsement will not be splashed across the front page of the New York Times?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 17:40:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: James Deffenbach (#72)
Don't much see how he could. Ron's delegates will be at the R convention and Chuck will be heading the Constitution Party. Of course if the CP has their convention AFTER the R's have theirs I would imagine Ron's delegates would be free to support anyone they wanted to.

You know that's leverage right there.. If no candidate.... The Geezer, the Pleaser or The Freezer (props to Jay Leno), has enough delegates for a legitimate nomination, I can't imagine what that throws us into.
One mentioned that unless McCain recieves enough delegates, the nomination process could wind up in court.

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