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Title: Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination
Source: The LRC Blog
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020719.html
Published: Apr 26, 2008
Author: Eric A. Garris
Post Date: 2008-04-26 14:33:38 by James Deffenbach
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Comments: 201

Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination Posted by Eric A. Garris at April 26, 2008 10:11 AM

The Constitution Party just overwhelmingly defeated the warmongering neocon Alan Keyes by nominating Chuck Baldwin, 383 to 125.

Last night, CP founder Howard Phillips strongly denounced Keyes as a warmonger, neocon, and egomanic. Phillips was subsequently attacked by Jim Clymer, the CP national chairman.

In spite of Keyes bringing in a lot of delegates, the CP remained true to their anti-interventionist views and rejected Keyes.

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#152. To: All (#151)

To: ovrtaxt

Because the CP is full of a bunch of racist, xenophobic, religious fanatics?

70 posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:11:58 PM by Antonio C (God bless John McCain, George W. Bush, and our troops) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

Nothing's changed much over at Freakerville!!

LOLOL

What a pantload bunch of grifters and voyeurs...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   0:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#153. To: All (#152)

Media coverage of the Constitution Party convention

I appreciate Trent Hill, Mike Ferguson and Stephen Gordon’s eyewitness coverage of the Constitution Party convention. I thought folks might be interested in other media’s reporting. The Muskegon Chronicle ran a story today on Mad Max Riekse who is seeking the vice-presidential nomination. The St. Joseph News-Press ran a story on Thursday on the convention that mistakenly treated the nomination of Alan Keyes as a foregone conclusion. Former Constitution Party candidate for US Senate, Mark Dankof had an editorial published today in Al Bawaba that applauds the Constitution Party for their selection of Chuck Baldwin over Alan Keyes:

This weekend in Kansas City, the Constitution Party delegates offered a choice, not a Zionist-inspired echo. God bless them. God bless the Old American Republic. And God bless a Godly-man named Chuck Baldwin. Go get, ‘em, Chuck.

A Two-Party Death Grip


by Chuck Baldwin
February 15, 2008



It is time to say it: the two major parties hold a death grip on the American people. Instead of representing the people, both the Republican and Democrat parties are bought and paid for by special interest groups and multinational corporations. Neither party pays any attention to the U.S. Constitution but both are largely marching in lockstep toward bigger and bigger government. Both Republicans and Democrats eagerly sacrifice what's good for the country for what's good for the party. As they now exist, neither major party deserves the support of patriotic Americans.

Furthermore, blind allegiance to the two major parties has created a "lesser of two evils" mindset that has warped the thinking and perverted the values of otherwise good people. What people would never accept in any other venue of society, they gladly and willingly accept from their chosen party's candidates.

People expect honesty and integrity from clergymen, bankers, doctors, businessmen, realtors, journalists, and even used car salesmen. Those same people, however, quickly tolerate and even excuse dishonesty and chicanery from their chosen political party.

Ever since George W. Bush became President of these United States, I have watched in disbelief as my fellow Christian conservatives have not only looked the other way as Bush repeatedly betrayed conservative/constitutional principles, but have willingly and enthusiastically supported his apostasy. Many of them are continuing to do the same thing by supporting the Big-Government, pro-amnesty, pro-gun control, pro-100-year war, grubby candidacy of John McCain. Good grief! Pat Robertson even endorsed the soiled candidacy of the liberal cross-dresser, Rudy Giuliani.

It is clear, therefore, that conservatives are more than willing to support and defend someone they know to be unfaithful to both their oath of office and to bedrock conservative principles. In other words, it does not matter a whit to them whether their candidate tells the truth, obeys the Constitution, or even demonstrates fidelity to the fundamental principles of liberty. If he has an "R" behind his name, conservatives will support him.

However, the same people who will justify dishonesty in the lives of their favored party's politicians would never accept such conduct from anyone else. Furthermore, many of these conservatives actually call themselves Christians; many are preachers. They preach and teach the virtues of honesty and integrity from the pulpit. They teach boys and girls to be honest and virtuous: to put the principles of right above personal wealth or benefit. Then, they turn around and support these lying politicians, many of whom are fornicating, greedy, arrogant reprobates. What is even more amazing is that they find no inconsistency with what they are doing.

In his Farewell Address, our first and greatest President, George Washington, eloquently lobbied the American people to guard against over-infatuation with political parties. Anyone reading his warnings today will be impressed with his insight and wisdom. Virtually everything he predicted has come to pass. Blind loyalty to political parties has corrupted our public institutions, blinded the hearts and minds of the American people, and opened wide the door to undue foreign influence.

If everyone who believes and teaches honesty and accountability would put it into practice when they walk into the voting booth, we could put a stop to this pathetic practice of electing dishonest and despicable people to high public office. Instead of hiding their own character and integrity under the bushel basket of party partisanship, voters could be proud of the fact that they are actually helping to set the ship of state aright by electing men and women of honesty and character.

Although I do not share this opinion, many people believe Abraham Lincoln to be one of America's greatest presidents (I think he was one of the worst). Personal opinion aside, it is a fact that Lincoln's election and subsequent influence upon this country was huge. Therefore, it is more than significant to realize that Lincoln was first elected from a four-person race with only 39% of the popular vote. Even more significant is the fact that at that time the Republican Party was a minor party, having been formed only a few years earlier. So much for the argument that a minor party cannot win a major election.

In practically every Presidential election, there are candidates from a variety of independent or "third" parties on the ballot. To ignore them merely because they are not Republicans or Democrats is absurd. Furthermore, it is more than obvious that the GOP will not tolerate principled candidates running for President. The recent Presidential candidacies of Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul make this abundantly clear.

While it may still be appropriate to support state and local Republican candidates, at the Presidential level, it is waste of time--and a wasted vote--to support the establishment Republican candidates. They are all Big-Government liberals. Yes, that includes Mike Huckabee.

I recommend that people seriously consider voting for a Third Party candidate this November. Start by taking a close look at the Constitution Party.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

The Constitution Party (the third largest political party in America) has a proven track record of fidelity to pro-life, conservative principles and to constitutional government. I further believe it is time for principled columnists and journalists such as Charley Reese to start encouraging voters to support principled, independent candidates. The same goes for leaders of the Religious Right such as Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and Phyllis Schlafly. For them to continue to ignore good, independent candidates only serves to strengthen and augment the two-party death grip.

It is more than interesting that more people are currently registered as Independents than either Republican or Democrat. But it is not enough to register as an Independent, we must start voting Independent. Remember, the object is to elect honest and honorable leaders for our country, not to promote and protect the private agendas of the fat cats who control the two major parties.

It increasingly appears that the two major parties will force the American people to choose between the fascistic John McCain or the Marxist Barack Obama. Is that really the kind of choice we are willing to accept? Are we really content to continue to vote the "party line," no matter what damage results?

Let's face it, folks: the two major parties are strangling the life out of this country. It is indeed a death grip. Something drastic must be done, and it must be done NOW! Since it does not appear that either major party is salvageable (at the national level), it is up to "We the people" to take matters into our own hands. This means bypassing the mainstream press and relying more on the Internet for our news and information. And it means bypassing the two major parties and voting for Independent candidates for President.

If Michael Bloomberg throws his hat in the Presidential ring, it will already be a three-man race. A strong independent conservative contender would make it a viable four-man race (just like 1860). At that point, anything could happen. But first, we must awaken to the reality of the two-party death grip, and then decide to do something about it. I am ready. How about you?

*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, donations may now be made by credit card, check, or Money Order. Use this link:

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/donate.php

© Chuck Baldwin

This column is archived as http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080215.html


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   1:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#154. To: RickyJ (#138)

I have a huge problem with Chuck so I won't be voting for him. Might vote for Barr, still not sure yet.

I don't understand. I have read much of what Chuck has written over the years and haven't found anything in any of his public writings or statements to object to. What was it you found objectionable if you don't mind saying?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-27   10:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#155. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Good news (for a change)! I'm sure that Alan Keyes was a GOP plant sent into the CP to neuter it. CP supporters had the good sense to say "no" to neoconservatism.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-04-28   13:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#156. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#155)

Good news (for a change)! I'm sure that Alan Keyes was a GOP plant sent into the CP to neuter it. CP supporters had the good sense to say "no" to neoconservatism.

I never thought for one minute about voting for Alan Keyes for anything after that dumb@$$ statement he made about Michael New--twice the man (at least) that Keyes could hope to be.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-28   16:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#157. To: James Deffenbach (#156)

Keyes also favors slavery reparations in the form of a special tax cut for all blacks. Even Obama opposes slavery reparations, which puts Keyes in the same league of race panderers as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-04-28   17:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#158. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#157)

Keyes also favors slavery reparations in the form of a special tax cut for all blacks. Even Obama opposes slavery reparations, which puts Keyes in the same league of race panderers as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

I guess he is just another poverty pimp. A bit better educated and a little more well spoken but just another flaming racist at heart. Why should white people be forced to pay descendants of black people for things that happened four or five hundred years ago and over which none of us had any control? It is absurd. And that is completely overlooking that if they had been left in Africa their life spans would be much shorter and it is highly unlikely that they would have ever had the kind of life there--most of them anyway--that most of their descendants have had here. Not saying I condone slavery because I don't and I think that many of the ills we have faced and will continue to face are a punishment for it (nationally I mean). Still it doesn't make sense to blame descendants for what their ancestors several generations back did or didn't do.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-04-28   17:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#159. To: James Deffenbach (#158)

Liberia bump


FOH  posted on  2008-04-28   18:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#160. To: Jethro Tull, FOH, James deffenbach, robin, all, christine (#19)

I will not promote this POS party. I still have the recent email from the constitution chairman Clymer stating that he pesonally invited Alan 'bring back the draft and jail Mike New' Keyes into their party with claims that Keyes is a 'good match' for this party. F all of them., sorry. voting is a joke anyway, nothing but theatre.

if i see a public apology and resignation from clymer i may reconsider. (probably not). Remember, Clymer also shilled for and fawned over the WND guy / former Israeli employee who wants to nuke Iran. whats his name... jerry corsi.

Patooey!!

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   2:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#161. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#155)

WHy did the chairman of the CP boast that he personally invited keyes to join? then he sends a letter later stating that keyes was not a good match according to delegates.

I was so shocked to see the likes of keyes and corsi fawned over by this party that I saved all those emails. throw the CP into the trash where it belongs. its a waste of time anyway, a delusion, there are no elections in the USSA.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   2:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#162. To: buckeye (#100)

>>To enable Robert Welch, a 32nd degree Mason, to devote all of his time to the John Birch Society, Nelson Rockefeller purchased his family firm, the Welch Candy Company, from him at a handsome price. Welch chose the principal officers of the John Birch Society from his acquaintances at the Council On Foreign Relations. For years afterwards, American patriots were puzzled by the consistent inability of the John Birch Society to move forward on any of its well-advertised "anti-Communist" goals. The fact that the society had been set up at the behest of the backers of the world Communist revolution may have played some role in this development. Other patriots wondered why most American conservative writers, including the present writer, were steadily blacklisted by the John Birch Society for some thirty years. Despite thousands of requests from would be book buyers, the John Birch Society refused to review or list any of my books. After several decades of futility, the Society was totally discredited by its own record. In a desperate effort to restore its image, William Buckley, the CIA propagandist, launched a "fierce" attack against the John Birch Society in the pages of his magazine, the National Review. This free publicity campaign also did little to revive the moribund organization.

Mullins is systematically documenting the way in which the powers that be control factions in this country

Interesting, thanks for the info.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   3:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#163. To: Artisan (#162) (Edited)

The fact that the society had been set up at the behest of the backers of the world Communist revolution may have played some role in this development. Other patriots wondered why most American conservative writers, including the present writer, were steadily blacklisted by the John Birch Society for some thirty years. Despite thousands of requests from would be book buyers, the John Birch Society refused to review or list any of my books. After several decades of futility, the Society was totally discredited by its own record. In a desperate effort to restore its image, William Buckley, the CIA propagandist, launched a "fierce" attack against the John Birch Society in the pages of his magazine, the National Review. This free publicity campaign also did little to revive the moribund organization.

Gate-keepers of the highest order. I lasted about two weeks as a Bircher. When I discovered that even talking about the disproportionate number of Jews being appointed (not elected) to the highest, most powerful and most sensitive positions throughout our entire system was frowned upon or banned altogether ... I quit.

Edit: The New American Magazine and other Bircher materials often offer good solid information they simply do not address the obvious and obnoxious presence of a cabal of Jews (that would more appropriately be deemed Babylonian satanists) driving us into war and bankruptcy.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   4:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#164. To: Artisan (#160)

Are you OK with Baldwin? Barr?

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   9:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#165. To: Artisan (#160)

I will not promote this POS party.

Sorry your guy Don Grundmann didn't quite make the cut...Baldwin's the next best thing to Ron Paul.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#166. To: noone222 (#163)

a cabal of Jews (that would more appropriately be deemed Babylonian satanists) driving us into war and bankruptcy.

Much more accurate...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#167. To: FOH (#165)

You don't understand. I voted for peroutka/baldwin in 04, I have no problem with Baldwin, matter of fact I think he's a great candidate. But when the party's own chairman, Clymer, even after Baldwin wins, criticizes the party's founder for outing keyes for the scum he is, you're spittin in the wind. Why would you embrace a party that shills and fawns over JEROME CORSI and ALAN KEYES? Do you even know who these people are? Are you on the CP mailing list? I've been on it for 5 years. They acted like mesmerized schoolgirls sending crap not only to my email but my real mailbox about neocon jerome corsi & keyes.

Other than that, you seem to be real excited about the possibility of a CP presidency. That's sort of funny. You can't see thru bullshit when you see it or what?

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   11:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#168. To: Artisan (#167)

I have no problem with Baldwin, matter of fact I think he's a great candidate.

And he's the CP nominee.

You can go Watermelon Party, Liberaltarian Open Borders Party, Council on Foreign Relations National Globalist Party (R&D), Independent, etc.

I'm supporting the CP's nominee. And I'll also predict Clymer is short term.

BTW, Corsi is good people. You're too jaded to get past his past.

I wonder where you 'came from'...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#169. To: robin (#164)

Barr, when did he repent of his drug warrior status? Baldwin is cool, but the notion that spending time and energy on the CP to 'solve the country's ills' is a pipedream and a waste of time. I know Ron Paul delegates who actually think the guy could and can still win. I supported Paul, but as you knew he never truly had any chance of winning. It was always about spreading a message.

elections are contrived theatre nonsense for TV. if someone wants to promote a 3rd party in order to spread the messsage to others , that's fine; but if the people doing it actually believe their guy can win, let's just say 'they're at a different stage in the game' than me.

I mean would you waste a dime on any candidate today? Better spent hoarding your one alloted bag of rice from sam's club, lol.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   11:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#170. To: FOH (#168)

Corsi is an admitted israeli employee who constantly talks about nuking Iran. he's a neocon scum. Just because he jumped on the 'NAU' bandwagon years after the fact doesn't make him a good guy. Have you heard his views on the iraq war, the war on terror in general, the terror laws, etc? He doesn't share what are your stated views at all! He's an opportunist and probably a paid infiltrator.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   11:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#171. To: Artisan (#170)

We're all on a journey...you included.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#172. To: FOH (#171)

True enough; i still wouldnt trust zionist jerry corsi though. I think his purpose is to serve as a sort of public 'pressure valve' similar to what the minutemen such as gilcrest served; allowing a segment of the population in the mainstream to 'oppose bush' and air their dissatisfaction with government, while still going along with the govt's overall agenda. (iraq war, war on terra, REAL ID, etc).

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   11:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#173. To: Artisan (#172)

True enough; i still wouldnt trust zionist jerry corsi though. I think his purpose is to serve as a sort of public 'pressure valve' similar to what the minutemen such as gilcrest served; allowing a segment of the population in the mainstream to 'oppose bush' and air their dissatisfaction with government, while still going along with the govt's overall agenda. (iraq war, war on terra, REAL ID, etc).

A fair observation and duly noted.

The dynamics surrounding Israel, the Bible and Christians are quite amazing really...did you read Baldwin's piece on "Ron Paul's Israel Problem"?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#174. To: Artisan (#169)

I haven't sent a dime to anyone but Ron Paul. Nor have I any bumper sticker other than his; I recently removed them. However, the antiwar movement is worthwhile, and perhaps (or perhaps not) supporting whoever they are (which happens to be Obama - 'nuff said on that).

The guy from LA's 9/11 group said he's not interested in following politics, he's focusing on 9/11 and the "power centers". That sounds worthwhile too.

Until folks understand 9/11 they'll never see who's hiding in plain sight.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#175. To: FOH (#173)

did you read Baldwin's piece on "Ron Paul's Israel Problem"?

No, I'll check it out.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   11:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#176. To: FOH (#173)

did you read Baldwin's piece on "Ron Paul's Israel Problem"?

I need to look at it in more detail.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   12:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#177. To: robin (#174)

Until folks understand 9/11 they'll never see who's hiding in plain sight.

Mike Malloy formerly of 'air america' recently wrote a very shocking piece on his blog recently titled 'just breathe' outlining that same point. Seems the guy has jumped into 911 truth full force. Although I once heard Malloy mock peoples concerns about world government as nonsensical.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   12:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#178. To: TwentyTwelve, Artisan (#176)

Baldwin hits it pretty well out of the park, in political terms, imo...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   12:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#179. To: Artisan (#177)

Mike Malloy formerly of 'air america'

I'll keep an eye out for him. It sounds like he has removed the filters now. It takes time to fully deprogram and absorb it all, and to discern the truly nonsensical from the awful reality; not that I've achieved any apex of understanding, it's a daily chore.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   12:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#180. To: robin, twentytwelve (#179)

here is the entry from Mike Malloy that I referred to, got it via email from a 911 truth group. I liked a lot of what he said when I used to listen to him occasionally. I even heard him refer to the Franklin coverup scandal and he inferred all sorts of true things about the bushes regarding it. That was quite surprising for a clearchannel owned station, which carried his air america show (KTLK L.A.) He always referred to the bushes as 'the bush crime family'.

www1.novamradio.com/live/...=blog_display&blog_ id=45&

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-30   12:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#181. To: Artisan (#170)

Corsi is an admitted israeli employee ....

Everyone at WND are zio-nazi sympathizers. Baldwin is one too.

This guy, Tom Kovach is on RBN at 7:00 A.M. ... he's run for office as a CP candidate and supports the CP generally. He too is a WND type of zio-christian apologist. Seems like the CP has locked in a certain faction of Bible thumpers that either can't read or would rather just ignore the facts so that they can look like Jew Saviors.

These people are a definite threat to freedom and peace.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   14:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#182. To: noone222 (#181)

zio-nazi sympathizers. Baldwin is one too.

Take care.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   14:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#183. To: Artisan (#180)

He always referred to the bushes as 'the bush crime family'.

very good, thanks for the link to his radio show.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   20:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#184. To: FOH (#182)

ConservativeHQ.com Active Polls

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   21:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#185. To: TwentyTwelve (#184)

4th poll down?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   21:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#186. To: FOH (#185)

4th poll down?

Now that John McCain has enough delegates to secure the GOP nomination, should Ron Paul stay in the race anyway?

Dr. Paul should stay in, all the way to the convention, to give all GOP voters an alternative to McCain. 47%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   21:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#187. To: TwentyTwelve (#186)

Dr. Paul should stay in, all the way to the convention, to give all GOP voters an alternative to McCain. 47%

No other choice at this point...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   21:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#188. To: FOH (#187)

ConservativeHQ.com Active Polls

Here's a list of possible running mates for John McCain. Some are included simply to provide the widest possible choice. Whom should McCain pick?

Ron Paul 21%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   22:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#189. To: TwentyTwelve (#188)

If McTraitor actually lost what's left of his mind and against ALL odds chose Ron Paul as his Veep candidate, would you vote for the snake?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   22:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#190. To: FOH (#189)

If McTraitor actually lost what's left of his mind and against ALL odds chose Ron Paul as his Veep candidate, would you vote for the snake?

If depends on McKook's health.

hmmmmmmm.......

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   22:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#191. To: TwentyTwelve (#190)

heheheh


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   22:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#192. To: FOH (#189)

ConservativeHQ.com Active Polls

If John McCain chooses a principled conservative as his running mate, will it affect your vote?

• If he chooses a principled conservative, I will probably work hard for his election. 18%

• If he chooses a principled conservative, I will probably vote for him, but will not work hard for his election. 26%

• Regardless of his running mate, I WON’T vote for McCain. I'll probably vote for someone else. 31%

• Regardless of his running mate, I WON’T vote for McCain. I probably won't vote for anyone for president. 9%

I WILL vote for McCain, no matter whom he picks as his running mate. 16%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-30   22:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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