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Title: Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination
Source: The LRC Blog
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020719.html
Published: Apr 26, 2008
Author: Eric A. Garris
Post Date: 2008-04-26 14:33:38 by James Deffenbach
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Chuck Baldwin Defeats Alan Keyes for Constitution Party Nomination Posted by Eric A. Garris at April 26, 2008 10:11 AM
The Constitution Party just overwhelmingly defeated the warmongering neocon Alan Keyes by nominating Chuck Baldwin, 383 to 125.
Last night, CP founder Howard Phillips strongly denounced Keyes as a warmonger, neocon, and egomanic. Phillips was subsequently attacked by Jim Clymer, the CP national chairman.
In spite of Keyes bringing in a lot of delegates, the CP remained true to their anti-interventionist views and rejected Keyes.
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#102. To: FOH (#98)
After graduating from La Porte High School in 1971 Chuck attended Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac, Michigan, for two years. He then married and moved to Lynchburg, Virginia. He enrolled in the Thomas Road Bible Institute (now known as the Liberty Bible Institute at Liberty University)

Damn, that's an almost unbearable amount of brainwashing right there.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 18:55:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#103. To: buckeye (#100)
He's not evil, he's not Establishment, and he's got my full unwavering support...short of irreconcilable differences that didn't get vetted out.
GOOD SEEING YOU!

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 18:56:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#104. To: FOH (#103)
nevermind. we already have a Constitution Party ping list. i need to subscribe to it myself!

christine posted on 2008-04-26 18:59:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#105. To: Dakmar (#102)
Damn, that's an almost unbearable amount of brainwashing right there.

Many good people have reprogrammed themselves and thanked divine intervention...;)
Why Does The Establishment Hate Ron Paul? I made it out, I'm proof! America-First, Now and Forever!!

by Chuck Baldwin
January 8, 2008

What is it about Ron Paul that the Establishment finds so disturbing?
This is a man who perhaps personifies Christian character and integrity, American patriotism, and family values more than any other public figure. Ron Paul is a committed family man whose marriage to Carol has lasted for more than 50 years. He is a lover of families and children. As an OB/GYN physician, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies into this world. His life demonstrates a commitment to life and marriage.

Furthermore, Ron Paul's devotion to Christ is very personal and deep. Unlike many politicians (especially in the Republican Party), Ron Paul does not wear his religion on his sleeve. He doesn't need to. Anyone who knows him knows his faith is exhibited on a daily basis. His life and family are testaments to his Christian faith.
Beyond that, Ron Paul's record in Congress is so unblemished, so honest, so full of integrity that it is difficult to describe. This is a man who actually takes his oath to the Constitution (an oath every congressman, senator, and President also takes--but then ignores) seriously. So much so that he has never voted to raise taxes, never voted for an unbalanced budget, never voted for a congressional pay raise, never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership, and never voted to increase the power of the executive branch of the federal government.
In addition, Ron Paul has never taken a government-paid junket. Even though he is a 10-term congressman, he is not accepting a government pension. He also returns a portion of his office budget every year to the taxpayers. No wonder Ron Paul was declared to be the "Taxpayer's Best Friend."
Now, how in the name of common sense can a man such as Ron Paul be hated? Maybe it is because he is a man of integrity and honesty. Remember, our Lord said that men who love darkness hate the light. And if there is a word that describes the Establishment in America today, it is DARKNESS.
Name it: the establishment Democrat and Republican Parties, the establishment media, the establishment financial institutions, and even the establishment churches all seem to be run by people who exude the power of darkness. It should not surprise us, therefore, when a man arises who personifies the light of integrity and honesty, that the powers that be should hate him--and hate Ron Paul they do.
Conservative Republican Ron Paul is loathed as much by members of his own party as he is by liberal Democrats. Even though he is the epitome of a Christian gentleman, Ron Paul is despised by Christians and pastors as much as he is by pagans--maybe more. The media despises him--especially Fox News. The so-called conservative Fox News celebrity Sean Hannity practically goes ballistic at the mere mention of Dr. Paul's name.

Ron Paul has been categorized with the Ku Klux Klan, brothel owners, and Skin Heads. He has been called practically every name in the book. Conservatives and liberals alike rail against Dr. Paul in a manner never seen before in modern politics. Again, why does the Establishment hate him so much? I'll tell you why.
The Establishment hates Ron Paul because his honesty and integrity expose the rest of them for the moral reprobates they are. Their own conscience cannot bear the sight of him. His very presence condemns them. Their personal greed and ambition cringe at the very thought of Ron Paul. If Dr. Paul became President, the Gig would be up! It would be Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday at Tombstone all over again. They know it, and they will fight like mad to keep their corrupt stranglehold on American politics.
Another reason the Establishment hates Ron Paul is because he is a true American--and there are not very many true Americans left in Washington, D.C., these days. You see, Ron Paul has read and studied American history. He understands constitutional government. He knows what real money is--and is not. As historian and author Thomas DiLorenzo said, Ron Paul is a modern-day Thomas Jefferson. (See his column at: http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo137.html )
Unfortunately, most of what we have in Washington, D.C., these days (in both parties) is a bunch of internationalists who cannot see past their own selfish interests. They are consumed with greed and power. They are slaves to Big Business and special interest groups. They are petty, shallow hirelings who care nothing for constitutional government, the principles of liberty, or the American people. To them, Ron Paul represents everything they hate: limited government, freedom, selflessness, humility, and integrity.
Furthermore, Ron Paul is not interested in creating a world empire. Neither is he a warmonger. He would squash the burgeoning New World Order in its tracks--and the globalists ensconced in Washington and New York City know it.

There is only one Presidential candidate who would bring a modern-day revolution to Washington, D.C., and it is not Barack Obama or Mike Huckabee. It is Ron Paul. Obama and Huckabee--along with the rest of the Democrat and Republican contenders--are only more of the same. The same Nanny State, the same unconstitutional laws and regulations, the same advances toward global government, the same attacks against individual liberties, the same arrogance, the same hypocrisy, the same social programs, the same back-breaking taxes, the same jack-booted federal police tactics, the same IRS, the same lobbyists, and the same corrupt Washington politics.
That the Establishment would hate Ron Paul should not surprise us. It does not even surprise me that many pastors and Christians despise Ron Paul. (After all, many of them still worship at the altar of George W. Bush.) What is yet to be seen is, How will the American people receive him? His strong showing in Iowa surprised most of the "experts." I believe he will do even better in New Hampshire today. How Dr. Paul's campaign fares in future primaries is still to be seen.
Should Ron Paul fail in his bid to become the Republican Party's Presidential nominee, I believe it is critically important that he continue his bid as a Third Party candidate. His campaign is more than a campaign--it is a movement. People by the thousands and money by the millions is pouring in, and it will continue to pour in all the way to the general election. It is essential that Ron Paul stays in the race all the way to November.
Remember, when Abraham Lincoln won in 1860, there were four strong Presidential candidates, and Lincoln won with just 39% of the popular vote. With New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg seriously considering an independent bid for the White House, and if Ron Paul, likewise, runs as a Third Party candidate, 2008 could see another race with four strong Presidential contenders. In such a case, anything is possible--including a Ron Paul victory.
The fact is, Ron Paul does not need the support of the Establishment to win. With God's help--and with the help of millions of fed-up and tireless average Joes--anything is possible. Anything.
Here is another thing: the fact that the Establishment hates Ron Paul so much must mean that there is ample reason for ordinary people like you and me to love him!

*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, please send your check or Money Order to:
Chuck Baldwin Live
P.O. Box 37070
Pensacola, Florida 32526

© Chuck Baldwin

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:00:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#106. To: christine, *Chuck Baldwin President 2008* (#104)
WOOOOHOOOO! ping

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:00:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#107. To: FOH (#103)
He may think he's not Establishment. President Garfield probably didn't think he was, either.

buckeye posted on 2008-04-26 19:00:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#108. To: buckeye (#107) (Edited)
He may think he's not Establishment. President Garfield probably didn't think he was, either.

buck...
Bob Barr should be getting the Libertarian nod.
Nader, Independent? Jackson, Green? Hitlery, CommieCrat? McNAUer, PubbieCrat?
I will be surprised if Ron Paul 'endorses' anyone...should be Chuck Baldwin if he does IMO.
Baldwin/Paul 2008!

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:02:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#109. To: FOH (#26)
*Chuck Baldwin President 2008*

good lord. that will teach me to read the thread first. (blush)

christine posted on 2008-04-26 19:03:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#110. To: christine (#109)
How was your day there sunshine? ;)

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:04:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#111. To: buckeye (#100) (Edited)
It also seems that the powers that be have a much tighter control than a single President can change.

That's another reason I would like to see Ron Paul as prresident. I never harbored any illusions about his being able to undo every cockamamie law passed since 1914, but I can't help but chuckle when I think of AEI staffers heads semi-spontaneously exploding, in harmony.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:05:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#112. To: FOH (#106)
did you check to make everyone who joins it co owners?

christine posted on 2008-04-26 19:05:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#113. To: christine (#112) (Edited)
did you check to make everyone who joins it co owners?

HELP?! [edit: I think I just figured it out and made all subscribers co-owners or such]

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:08:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#114. To: FOH (#108)
Bob Barr should be getting the Libertarian nod.

Barr was big-time drug warrior in the 90's, I'd vote for Ralph Nader first.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:08:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#115. To: FOH (#95)
That's my prayer...
If good people will stand up and do the right thing just once!
Enough Christian Socialism! Enough UNconstitutional governance! Enough Warfare-Welfare State-Police State, Enough PHONY 'Wars', such as the War on Some Drugs!
Enough EMPIRE!!!
B 4 it is TOO late .
Say "NO!" to Juan Hitlobama!

From your mouth to God's ear as they say.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-04-26 19:08:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#116. To: Dakmar (#111)
Spontaneous combustion might be observed in more than one "institute." But they'd have an answer for neutralizing the power of his presidency.

buckeye posted on 2008-04-26 19:09:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#117. To: Dakmar (#114)
Barr was big-time drug warrior in the 90's, I'd vote for Ralph Nader first.

I just can't get down with watermelons. I thought about it for about a moment...got ill.

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:10:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#118. To: FOH (#117)
And just what the heck is that supposed to mean?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:13:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#119. To: FOH (#77)
I hearby move that 4um link to the Constitution Party and throw our support officially from Ron Paul and the GOP and to Chuck Baldwin and a REAL 3rd Party for Constitutional-Conservative-minded governance! Banners, the whole works! Can I get a 2nd? an Amen?!

yes, great idea!

christine posted on 2008-04-26 19:14:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#120. To: Dakmar, FOH (#118)
Green on the outside, red on the inside.

buckeye posted on 2008-04-26 19:14:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#121. To: buckeye (#116)
Spontaneous combustion might be observed in more than one "institute." But they'd have an answer for neutralizing the power of his presidency.

Screw them, it's too late, now I want a Unitarian president, I think.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:17:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#122. To: buckeye, FOH (#120)
Green on the outside, red on the inside.

Of course. I'd have known that had I not been drinking heavily all day.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:19:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#123. To: Dakmar (#122)
One reason I supported Ron Paul was that he was circumspect regarding his strong religious beliefs.

buckeye posted on 2008-04-26 19:21:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#124. To: buckeye (#123)
If God chooses to spare the nation awhile longer, let Him I say...brb.
GOOD TO SEE YOU BUCKEYE !!

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:23:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#125. To: buckeye (#123) (Edited)
One reason I respect Dr Paul is that he doesn't make an issue of his religious beliefs.
There's nothing creepier than watching someone like Newt Gingrich lead a prayer vigil.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 19:24:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#126. To: FOH (#124)
Good to see you, too. I'm also glad to see that you've got a cause to support. I'm looking forward to learning more about Baldwin from your posts.

buckeye posted on 2008-04-26 19:26:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#127. To: christine (#119)
yes, great idea!

Let's see what Baldwin2008's site looks like and where they post it !! Should be soon...

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:38:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#128. To: buckeye (#126)
#9 up above would be a good place to start!
More Chuck Baldwin

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:40:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#129. To: Dakmar, buckeye (#122)
Green on the outside, red on the inside.
Of course. I'd have known that had I not been drinking heavily all day.

(watermelon)
Heheheh, sometimes they're just pink on the inside, but if they sit out in the sun too long they do get red/ripe...

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 19:41:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#130. To: FOH (#77)
Can I get a 2nd? an Amen?!

Here.
Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.
Old Fud posted on 2008-04-26 20:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#131. To: Old Fud (#130)

McCain Madness

by Chuck Baldwin
February 8, 2008

A few weeks before Super Tuesday, my friend Howard Phillips asked me who I thought the Republican Presidential nominee would be. I predicted John McCain. With the results of Super Tuesday now history, most political pundits are also predicting that the Arizona senator will gain the Republican nomination for President. And with Mitt Romney now out of the race, McCain is all but assured the nomination. One did not need to be a seer to figure this one out.
For one thing, President George W. Bush all but destroyed whatever conservative influence was left in the GOP. Peggy Noonan is right about that.
(See http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120120952618514493.html )
Furthermore, the capitulation and compromise of principle by the Religious Right has also significantly sealed the death warrant of conservatism within the GOP. For the sake of not offending George Bush or losing whatever seat at the table the various leaders of the Religious Right felt they had, their spirit of resistance waned to the point that the very name "Christian Conservative" has lost all meaning, not to mention power.

As a result, Republicans have come to accept Big Government, runaway federal spending, the Welfare State, the Warfare State, the Nanny State, empire-building, gargantuan trade and budget deficits, warrantless eavesdropping, the loss of 4th Amendment rights, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
Therefore, how could anyone expect the vast majority of Republican voters to suddenly rediscover a huge commitment of conviction to conservative principles? Add to that question the fact that there is only one true conservative/constitutionalist who made it to the Republican primaries: Congressman Ron Paul. And virtually the entire media and political establishment pummeled Congressman Paul to the point that his limited success in the race can be categorized as nothing short of miraculous.
Make no mistake about it: the establishment wants one of its own to succeed George Bush. In order for that to happen, they must manipulate the primaries to ensure that, no matter who wins in November, one of their fellow elitists will still wield power in Washington, D.C. On the Democratic side, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama fit the bill. And on the Republican side, John McCain is the ultimate insider.
A long-standing member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), John McCain will pursue the goals and ambitions of the globalists with a vengeance. As Pat Buchanan said recently, "John McCain will make Dick Cheney look like Gandhi." Buchanan is right on with that prediction.
Despite a liberal, Big Government track record, many Republican "conservatives" who have always been critical of John McCain are already beginning to warm up to him, feeling that his nomination is inevitable. Include in this list such notables as Grover Norquist, Tony Perkins, and fellow CFR member Richard Land.
Fortunately, not all of the conservative "talking heads" have jumped on the McCain bandwagon. Include in this list: Ann Coulter, who said she would campaign for Hillary Clinton if McCain is the Republican nominee; James Dobson, who said he would never vote for John McCain--no matter what; and Mr. Republican Cheerleader himself, Rush Limbaugh.

Then there is Mike Huckabee: the candidate to whom the evangelical George Bush robots have gravitated. Huckabee is every bit the Big Government liberal that is John McCain. In fact, Huckabee and McCain have developed a very close friendship, according to numerous sources. Many are even predicting that Huckabee will be McCain's running mate, in order to dupe evangelicals into accepting the McCain candidacy. (I have been saying this myself for months.) Even Rob Schenck said this about Huckabee: "After careful and prayerful consideration, I have concluded that an evangelical vote for Mike Huckabee is a vote for John McCain, and a vote for John McCain will be a disaster for this country."
But just who is this man, John McCain?
John McCain's father and grandfather were both admirals in the U.S. Navy. John was schooled in one of the most elite boarding schools in America. He graduated from the Naval Academy where he ranked 894th out of 899 students.
According to Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief, February 1, 2008, "[John McCain] used nepotism to get ahead: When he was rejected by the National War College, he used his father's contacts with the Secretary of the Navy to make them reconsider." Skousen also notes that "McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress."
It has also never been explained why the son and grandson of Navy admirals would not rise to the rank of Admiral himself. (He exited the Navy as a Captain.) Was it his numerous adulterous affairs or his violent temper? Or both?
John McCain's biographer Robert Timberg chronicles McCain's numerous sexual affairs with subordinates both when he was an Executive Officer and later Squadron Commander. Obviously, such fraternization is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Skousen and many others have chronicled McCain's violent temper. Even as a young man, McCain was "a strikingly violent man." Timberg quotes McCain describing his propensity for violence, even as a youngster, saying, "At the smallest provocation I would go off into a mad frenzy, and then suddenly crash to the floor unconscious."
McCain says his vicious temper was transformed after being held as a Prisoner of War by the North Vietnamese. There is no doubt that John McCain was tortured by his Vietnamese captors, but it also seems clear, by both the written and oral records of many, that McCain spent the bulk of his captivity collaborating with his captors.
It is more than interesting that former POW John McCain would use the power of his senate seat to stop the investigation and pursuit of American MIAs in Vietnam. What would possess a former naval officer to do such a thing? In fact, a group of Vietnam veterans has uploaded a web page dedicated to exposing the truth regarding John McCain's record on this matter. See it at http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
That John McCain still has a vicious temper is well known. We can all remember him singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," to the tune of the Beach Boys hit song "Barbara Ann." He also said North Korea should be threatened with "extinction." He often boasts of America's 100-year war with Iraq and talks of pursuing enemies "to the gates of hell." There is no doubt, John McCain is one mad man.
Furthermore, McCain's position on a host of issues is extremely problematic for the future of America. On immigration, John McCain joined with Ted Kennedy to sponsor an amnesty bill for illegal aliens. He voted to give social security dollars to illegal aliens. His Hispanic Outreach Director, Juan Hernandez, is a dual American-Mexican citizen widely known for his "Mexico First" declarations.

He repeatedly voted against the Bush tax cuts. He co-authored the McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill that was ruled to be an unconstitutional infringement of the First Amendment. Regarding the Second Amendment, the president of the NRA called John McCain the "worst 2nd Amendment candidate," and Gun Owners of America gives McCain a grade of F-.
John McCain co-sponsored the energy tax bill (along with his senate buddy Joe Lieberman), which would dramatically increase the cost of gasoline. He supports radical global warming legislation. He joined with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges. In 2000, he called Christian leaders "agents of intolerance." He has received the endorsement of the pro-abortion Republicans for Choice Political Action Committee. And let's not forget that John McCain was ringleader of the infamous Keating Five ethical scandal, which cost taxpayers more than $160 billion.
Consider, too, the top donors to John McCain's campaign. One will find many of the same multinational corporations that support Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton also supporting John McCain. Include in this list Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, and JP Morgan Chase & Co. (By comparison, the top contributors to Ron Paul's campaign are [in order]: 1. Members of the U.S. Army, 2. Members of the U.S. Navy, 3. Members of the U.S. Air Force.) Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008
(And, in case one is interested, the same big Arkansas conglomerates that supported Bill Clinton also support Mike Huckabee.) Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00007539&cycle=2008

Even New York Post D.C. Bureau Chief Charles Hurt wrote, "[I]f history is any guide, the McCain we've seen of late on the campaign trail is the most conservative McCain we'll ever see."
To vote for John McCain is madness!
Therefore, both social and fiscal conservatives--along with evangelical Christians--will have no one from either the Republican or Democrat parties for whom to vote this November. What, then, will they do? To vote for the "lesser of two evils" is no longer a legitimate option. There is no lesser in a McCain versus Clinton/Obama race. In fact, Ann Coulter might be right that in such a race, Hillary is the lesser of two evils.
What, then, are we to do?
First, Ron Paul should abandon his bid for the Republican nomination and declare himself a candidate for the Constitution Party nomination. If he did, he would doubtless receive the nomination and his campaign would continue to build excitement, donations, and momentum right up to November. (Ron Paul's supporters should do everything they can to influence Dr. Paul to shake off the dust of the GOP and lead his fellow constitutionalists on a mighty crusade for a Third Party victory!)
Should Ron Paul decide to remain in the McCain-led GOP, conservatives and constitutionalists should rally around the most viable option available to them. And that option is to support the Constitution Party nominee, whoever he is. (They will select their nominee in April in Kansas City, Missouri.) As the nation's third largest political party, the CP has the potential to be on all 50 state ballots and it is absolutely certain that the CP will nominate a constitutionalist candidate in the similitude of Ron Paul.

One thing is certain: with John McCain as the GOP standard-bearer, Christian conservatives and constitutionalists cannot vote for either the Republican or Democrat candidate this year. Staying home and not voting is an admission of defeat and should be dismissed out-of-hand.
2008 just might be the year to break the two-party stranglehold on American politics and vote for an independent conservative constitutionalist. And the platform and vehicle for this revolution already exists in the Constitution Party. ( http://www.constitutionparty.com/ )
*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, please send your check or Money Order to:
Chuck Baldwin Live
P.O. Box 37070

Pensacola, Florida 32526

© Chuck Baldwin

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 21:04:34 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#132. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Chuck has my support. He was the only public Christian voice to make the case for RP. If others had followed their consciences, RP might be the front runner. Instead, they are sheepishly lining up behind McAnus, and their flocks follow as though McAnus will do their bidding. Pitiful.
Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.
Old Fud posted on 2008-04-26 21:06:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#133. To: Old Fud (#132)
I'm a stone atheist and even I would rather see a truly faithful man like Baldwin elected to high office than these evil poseurs we're inevitably stuck with. On the other hand, Hillary lecturing me about the sin of smoking a doob while she's laying waste to Iran is sure to make many more people sit up and take notice.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-04-26 21:19:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#134. To: Dakmar (#133)
On the other hand, Hillary lecturing me about the sin of smoking a doob while she's laying waste to Iran is sure to make many more people sit up and take notice.

I would hope that would be the case, but on both 'sides' the masses are freaking dug-in-brain-dead.
IMHO, Baldwin *is not* on a theocracy rampage. He has simply shined the light on the stone cold truth, which is not inconsistent with his own Christian beliefs. He's a limited gub man, because that's the only way freedoms are preserved, religious and otherwise. Whether or not he may pray to Jesus publicly, such will not be be the straw that breaks the country's back.
Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.
Old Fud posted on 2008-04-26 22:25:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#135. To: who knows what evil, Dakmar (#29)
I also think Paul Craig Roberts would make a wonderful POTUS.
Ooooooo...Baldwin/Roberts? The mind boggles...

cool
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
robin posted on 2008-04-26 22:49:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#136. To: FOH (#88)
Ohhhhhhhhhh Ahhhhhhhhh... pretty!!! :) !!!

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 23:08:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#137. To: James Deffenbach (#90)
One mentioned that unless McCain recieves enough delegates, the nomination process could wind up in court. Yeah, and wouldn't that just be a "tarble thang"? ahaha.

Sho' wud. LOL!

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 23:11:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#138. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
I have a huge problem with Chuck so I won't be voting for him. Might vote for Barr, still not sure yet.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2008-04-26 23:14:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#139. To: Peppa (#136)

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 23:17:39 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#140. To: RickyJ (#138)
I don't know that you could go wrong with Barr...he sure made a turnaround.

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 23:18:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#141. To: Old Fud (#134) (Edited)
Constitution Party National Platform

FOH posted on 2008-04-26 23:20:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#142. To: FOH (#139)
A smiley face!

Peppa posted on 2008-04-26 23:24:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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