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Title: John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire
Source: judicial-inc
URL Source: http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm
Published: Mar 10, 2008
Author: judicial-inc
Post Date: 2008-03-10 01:06:57 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: John McCain, USS Forrestal Fire
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Comments: 39

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John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire

USS Forrestal In 1967

132 Dead Sailors, And Countless Wounded

A Small Rocket Hit A Fuel Tank On Another Plane

Where Is The Truth Here?

I have heard five versions of the Forrestal fire, but this one makes sense.

McCain Aviation Career

McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fired a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.

Did He Start The USS Forrestal Fire?

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.

Incompetence Or A Stunt

'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. 'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.

Zuni Rockets Were Volatile Design

In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' 'cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

The Carrier Oriskany

The USS Oriskany came along side to treat the wounded.

Wounded Flown Out

They were transferred to other ships.

McCain Left With The Wounded

When the carrier Oriskany came along side, and McCain was put in a chopper and whisked away. McCain was the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred

The Forrestal Crew

I have a hunch McCain left for his own safety, because the crew wanted blood.

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Is There Any Truth To This?

McCain's various stories never added up. Somehow, he was at the center of the USS Forrestal fire. His father covered up the biggest war crime in American naval history, the USS Liberty attack, and saved Israel. Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists supposedly tortured him half to death? After what McCain's father did for the Communists, he could have demanded anything.

The Zionists cooked the Forrestal story for a reason. They said McCain was on the catapult, but video shows he wasn't.

Whether Obama, Clinton, or McCain get elected doesn't matter. They will all do what the Zionists tell them to do. The Americans will need a fiscal collapse to motivate them, and then they will seek a electoral impeachment/recall.

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#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

Did He Start The USS Forrestal Fire?

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.

First, let me state that I am not a McCain supporter. I voted for Ron Paul in our primaries.

Second, I am a Navy veteran, and I worked on the flight deck of the USS Enterprise during 3 vietnam deployments in 1966, 67 and 68. I know about flight deck operations through extensive first-hand experience.

You ask the question, "Did [McCain] start the USS Forrestal fire?"

I'll answer: Absolutely, positively not!

The theory that a "wet start" triggered the Zuni missile is sound. But the notion that anybody deliberately wet starts his aircraft is preposterous. Most often a wet start results from turning the turbine over too slowly to start the engine. This can result from an error by the flight deck crewman who is operating the starter. Yes, it is a flight deck crewman who operates the starter on an A4. A4s (at least of that era) did not have an internal starter. The crewman manually inserted an air-driven starter into the side of the aircraft. Both the pilot and the starter crewman followed the signals given by the plane captain--who is an other flight deck crewman.

The starter turns when a member of the flight deck power crew makes the connection on the end of a remote control cable. That is when the aircraft engine is turned. It takes fifteen to twenty seconds to build up sufficient RPMs to start the engine. If the start is interrupted for any reason (and there are many why it can happen) the engine will spool down in a flooded condition. At that point, a wet start is almost inevitable when another attempt to start the engine is made.

It is highly likely that this is what happened on Forrestal.

It is impossible that McCain's jet started the fire. If you look at the video, you will see that the exhaust of his jet is pointed out over the side of the ship. There was no plane parked behind him. The missile that struck McCain's plane came from 90 degrees, off his starboard wing.

So please, stop this preposterous slander.

Now as to what he did after the fire started, aside from receiving severe burns, you make the absurd criticism that he went below decks while his shipmates were dying. Sickbay is below decks. That is where you go when you are injured. Pilots do not fight flight deck fires. There are crewman who have the special training and equipment who do that. It would be stupid for anyone not properly trained and equipped to hang around and be in the way.

Grow up. Keep your criticisms to fact. McCain's politics are far left of the Republican mainstream, and even further left of good sense. You don't need to try to beat him with lies. Defeat him with ideas!

John McCain, liberal that he is, deserves the respect of all of us--most especially those who weren't there when the Vietnam War was going on. I was there, and I saw pilots put their lives on the line every day, every time they climbed into their planes. If you haven't done that, then you can say nothing that will impress me.

NavyVet

NavyVet  posted on  2008-09-11   19:18:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: NavyVet (#11)

John McCain, liberal that he is, deserves the respect of all of us--most especially those who weren't there when the Vietnam War was going on. I was there, and I saw pilots put their lives on the line every day, every time they climbed into their planes. If you haven't done that, then you can say nothing that will impress me.

No one, NO ONE deserves any respect that fights in bullshit wars!

Military men are all dumb,stupid animals.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-11   19:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ninpo (#15)

No one, NO ONE deserves any respect that fights in bullshit wars!

what about those who had no choice because they were drafted, Ninpo?

christine  posted on  2008-09-11   19:49:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#26. To: christine (#25)

what about those who had no choice because they were drafted, Ninpo?

The smart people went to canada.

You always have another choice.

Lots of my family members have fought in the imperial USA's bullshit wars.

Some actually fought each other.(civil war).

War is a racket.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-11 19:53:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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