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Title: John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire
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Published: Mar 10, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-03-10 01:06:57 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: John McCain, USS Forrestal Fire
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John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire
USS Forrestal In 1967
132 Dead Sailors, And Countless Wounded
A Small Rocket Hit A Fuel Tank On Another Plane
Where Is The Truth Here?
I have heard five versions of the Forrestal fire, but this one makes sense.
McCain Aviation Career
McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fired a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.
Did He Start The USS Forrestal Fire?
Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.
Incompetence Or A Stunt
'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. 'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.
Zuni Rockets Were Volatile Design
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' 'cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.
The Carrier Oriskany
The USS Oriskany came along side to treat the wounded.
Wounded Flown Out
They were transferred to other ships.
McCain Left With The Wounded
When the carrier Oriskany came along side, and McCain was put in a chopper and whisked away. McCain was the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred
The Forrestal Crew
I have a hunch McCain left for his own safety, because the crew wanted blood.
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Is There Any Truth To This?
McCain's various stories never added up. Somehow, he was at the center of the USS Forrestal fire. His father covered up the biggest war crime in American naval history, the USS Liberty attack, and saved Israel. Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists supposedly tortured him half to death? After what McCain's father did for the Communists, he could have demanded anything.
The Zionists cooked the Forrestal story for a reason. They said McCain was on the catapult, but video shows he wasn't.
Whether Obama, Clinton, or McCain get elected doesn't matter. They will all do what the Zionists tell them to do. The Americans will need a fiscal collapse to motivate them, and then they will seek a electoral impeachment/recall.
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#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists supposedly tortured him half to death?

LOL!
I spent a lot of time in SE Asia, and never once did I run into an Jewish Communist. Of course I didn't run into Jane Fonda or John McCain while I was there either. I did see Bob Hope once. From quite a distance.

Sodie Pop posted on 2008-03-10 18:52:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Sodie Pop (#9)
I spent a lot of time in SE Asia, and never once did I run into an Jewish Communist.

Yes, Vietnam never had any russians helping them, nor chinese.
That is all a ruse to keep idiots like you fighting a bullshit war.

Ninpo posted on 2008-09-11 19:23:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#14. To: Ninpo, Sodie Pop (#12)
Yes, Vietnam never had any russians helping them, ...

I would not bet on that. It wouldn't change the folly of our involvement in Vietnam, in any case.

buckeye posted on 2008-09-11 19:27:36 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Ninpo (#12)
Your post says all that needs to be said about your knowledge and intelligence. Of course the Soviet Union and ChiComs we involved in the war. Where did those MiG jets come from? The AK-47s? The SAMs that brought down McCain's plane? I say again: Grow up.

NavyVet posted on 2008-09-11 19:30:56 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Ninpo (#12)
Yes, Vietnam never had any russians helping them, nor chinese.

Wow. Just wow. The U.S. Navy Seals captured a caucasian Soviet "advisor" once during a mission to do just that. When he was brought onto base he was shot by an ARVN/VC soldier who then shot himself.

X-15 posted on 2008-09-11 19:49:04 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Ninpo (#12)
Yes, Vietnam never had any russians helping them

Soviets Had Combat Role In Vietnam, Paper Shows; Advisers Helped Shoot Down U.S. Planes
Article from:
The Washington Post
Article date:
April 14, 1989
Author:
David Remnick
More results for:
soviets fought in Vietnam

Military officials here have acknowledged for the first time that a contingent of Soviet advisers in Vietnam took part in combat against U.S. forces there and helped shoot down American planes, according to a long account published today in the armed forces newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda.
One Soviet officer who fought alongside North Vietnamese troops is quoted in the article as saying he won two medals for helping shoot down 24 U.S. bombers-the Order of Lenin and the Red Banner.
An army major identified as A. Trombacheayev said that 25 to 30 of the Soviet Union's Vietnam veterans hold a reunion each April near Moscow's Bolshoi Theater, but that they experience little joy from their memories. "For all of them, Vietnam has the same meaning," he told the interviewer. "The horrible faces of Vietnamese children and women so awfully scarred by napalm, the bravery of the soldiers who vowed to die for their motherland."
The article is part of a series of reminiscences by Soviet veterans who served in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Egypt, Syria, Korea and elsewhere. Until recently, the Soviet press and public paid little attention to veterans of military actions after World War II. During the last months that Soviet troops were in Afghanistan, however, the press began a widespread campaign to lend more aid, as well as sympathy, to veterans of that war and other foreign engagements of the past 30 years.
Although the article is predictably laudatory of Hanoi's victory in Vietnam and written in a tone of heroic "internationalism," it does not sound a particularly aggressive tone toward the United States. In fact, Moscow has displayed a certain sympathy toward U.S. veterans of the Vietnam War and even allowed a group of them to come here several months ago to meet a group of Soviet veterans of the Afghan war.
Using excerpts from Soviet veterans' diaries, the Krasnaya Zvezda article described how in 1965 they helped set up antiaircraft units to defend against U.S. bombers.
One officer, Col. G. Lubinitsky, wrote that he and his men helped fight planes that were attacking Hanoi in two waves. "The division alongside us was the first to start firing, and they immediately scored hits. Two attempts and two hits," Lubinitsky's account said. "Our rockets hit their targets, too. Later we hit an unmanned spy plane."
One sergeant described the U.S. pilots as cocky and said they became vulnerable to ambushes set up by the North Vietnamese and Soviets. "We hit four planes with just three rockets," he said. "The Americans thought they could just do anything and flew alongside one another. They were so close that the shrapnel from one exploding plane caused another one to crash."

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