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Title: NIST engineer, John Gross, denies the existance of Molten Steel.
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Published: Feb 13, 2007
Author: Project for the New American Citizen
Post Date: 2007-02-13 11:34:11 by honway
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John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is quesitoned about the existance of molten steel at the WTC building, the ... all » collapse of Building 7, and also explains how the NIST report did not do any analysis of the collapse of all three buidlings. John Gross was asked to come speak at the University of Texas at Austin by the Phil. M. Ferguson fund ( Link to there website, http://www.utexas.edu/research/fsel/people/index.html) UT student organization, A Project for the New American CItizen was there to ask and film his response to the questions. please get in contact with this department at UT and tell them you want a public debate of these issues with a Project for the New American Citizen. We need to put as much pressure on these people as we can. Our website is http://PNACitizens.org Subscribe to *9-11*
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#2. To: honway (#0)
Molten Metal found at the WTC months after 9/11

Eoghan posted on 2007-02-13 12:23:28 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Eoghan, honway, Yertle the Turtle (#2) (Edited)
Molten steel is a product of a thermite reaction - although there are other ways to melt steel than just using thermite.
However if there was no molten steel, there could not have been any thermite reaction.

AGAviator posted on 2007-02-13 12:54:32 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#37. To: AGAviator, Eoghan, honway, Yertle the Turtle (#4)
Molten steel is a product of a thermite reaction - although there are other ways to melt steel than just using thermite.
However if there was no molten steel, there could not have been any thermite reaction.

How long does steel stay at temepratures where it is melting with no other heat source other than the quick burning thermite? Steel needs a lot of energy to stay in a molten state for any amount of time. Thermite charges also only melt the steel around which they are wraped as charges - presumebly not a wide enough area to melt that much steel as being claimed and they perform the melting in quick flash bang so no steady heat to keep steel molten.

Destro posted on 2007-02-14 18:43:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#52. To: Destro, Eoghan, honway, Yertle the Turtle (#37) (Edited)
How long does steel stay at temepratures where it is melting with no other heat source other than the quick burning thermite?

It's possible it got very hot inside the WTC - in certain sections - because of a "chimney fire" effect, which triggered thermite-type reactions from the steel in the building and the aluminum/magnesium alloy in the aircraft, which kept smouldering even after the structures collapsed.
The fires were high above ground level, and since warm air rises, they would have drawn air into them from below and expelled their smoke above. Structure fires like this can turn the structure into a blast furnace, and reach temperatures well over a thousand degrees. There are also events called "flashovers" when closed rooms fill with partially burnt smoke and when everything gets superheated past ignition temperature, the room literally explodes into flame everywhere at once.
So there is a lot about the fires that has not been addressed in great detail, but somehow the temperature got hot enough to melt steel.
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AGAviator posted on 2007-02-14 23:30:55 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#53. To: AGAviator (#52)
because of a "chimney fire" effect, which triggered thermite-type reactions from the steel in the building and the aluminum/magnesium alloy in the aircraft, which kept smouldering even after the structures collapsed.

lol

angle posted on 2007-02-14 23:34:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#54. To: angle (#53)
lol

lol

christine posted on 2007-02-14 23:41:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#58. To: christine, Destro, Yertle the Turtle (#54) (Edited)
Worcester MA Structure Fire 3000 Degrees - Without Thermite - LOL!
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AGAviator posted on 2007-02-14 23:57:54 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#61. To: AGAviator (#58)
Interesting.

BeAChooser posted on 2007-02-15 0:01:20 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#63. To: BeAChooser (#61)
are you going to do your kooky ron brown rant or not? we are waiting.

Morgana le Fay posted on 2007-02-15 1:31:03 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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