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Title: California Democrat Threatens "Nukes" If Americans Don't Hand Over Their Guns
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URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018 ... cans-dont-hand-over-their-guns
Published: Nov 17, 2018
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2018-11-17 07:32:10 by Horse
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Views: 197
Comments: 6

Well that escalated quickly...

Just days after taking back the House, a Democratic Congressmen has proposed outlawing "military-style semi-automatic assault weapons" and forcing existing owners to sell their weapons or face prosecution.

In a USA Today op-ed entitled “Ban assault weapons, buy them back, go after resisters,” Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., argued Thursday that prior proposals to ban assault weapons “would leave millions of assault weapons in our communities for decades to come.”

Swalwell proposes that the government should offer up to $1,000 for every weapon covered by a new ban, estimating that it would take $15 billion to buy back roughly 15 million weapons - and “criminally prosecute any who choose to defy [the buyback] by keeping their weapons.”

Which prompted a further response from Joe Biggs, a combat vet, "So basically @RepSwalwell wants a war. Because that’s what you would get. You're outta your fucking mind if you think I’ll give up my rights and give the gov all the power."

To which Rep. Swalwell decided to reply - in a not tyrannical-sounding way at all... "And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities."

"So our government would nuke its own country in order to take guns? Wow," Biggs responded.

"Don’t be so dramatic. You claiming you need a gun to protect yourself against the government is ludicrous. But you seem like a reasonable person. If an assault weapons ban happens, I’m sure you’ll follow law," Swalwell tweeted back.

And after the furor exploded, Swalwell quickly resorted to the "it was sarcasm" excuse.

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Now the question is - who will Twitter ban? The conservative-leaning 2nd Amendment-protector raising his 'social media' above the pulpit; or the liberal politician who is threatening to unleash nukes on domestic soil in order to ensure the citizenry follow his demands and hand over their means of defense?

To be continued... As NBC News reports, this is a major departure from prior gun control proposals that typically exempt existing firearms; as in the past, Democrats and gun safety groups have carefully resisted proposals that could be interpreted as 'gun confiscation', a concept gun rights groups have often invoked as part of a slippery slope argument against more modest proposals like universal background checks.

And sure enough Swalwell's egotistical over-reach - going full "Australia" - prompted anger across social media. But it was one particular thread that caught our eye...

John Cardillo, 'America Talks Live' host on Newsmax, tweeted in response: "Make no mistake, Democrats want to eradicate the Second Amendment, ban and seize all guns, and have all power rest with the state. These people are dangerously obsessed with power."

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

The only people who are afraid of guns, are the ones who probably need a bullet for being traitorous, treasonous snakes.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2018-11-17   7:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse, *Shooters* (#0)

That fucking red cunt Swalwell just mouthed the desire of the communists in America. The mask just dropped from their final agenda. From WRSA-

What very few FUSAns understand:

Going into the mid-20th century, socialism became the Earth’s dominant political organizing principle. Where Communism, the murderously mature form of socialism, remained in its fetal form, people appreciated the “social safety net” and supported it. If WWI resulted in the death of the European monarchies, WWII is best understood as a gang-fight between distinguishable yet kin-related socialists: the Fascist, NSDAP, and Japanese gangs on one side, and the British, US, and Soviet gangs on the other side. In 1945, FDR’s socialist gang and that of Stalin stood astride the globe.

Now, seventy plus years later, the EU, UK, and FUSA strive to join their socialist brethren in the PRC and India in the goals of central economic planning (and, when possible, total population control) and regional hegemony. Not coincidentally, civilian disarmament and heritage population replacement are other shared goals.

In FUSA, the switch from genteel American socialism to hard-line-deadly Maoism is in the works. You, dear reader, are in its sights. Make no mistake about that.

Without a coherent fighting principle around which trad Americans can organize (locally only, in meatspace only, amongst trusted, hard-hearted allies only), the Reds will seize the remaining levers of power between now and 2024. Once in complete control, the vestiges of trad American culture (and believers) will be swept forever into the dumpster of multiculti power for power’s sake.

There will be no reset for the foreseeable future.

One man, one vote, one time.

Thus, believers in private property, the sanctity of the individual, traditional families, free speech, and limited government have only a blink of history in which to abandon their illusions and prepare for the Great North American Death Match.

No one is coming to save you.

Very many of your “countrymen” are in fact the enemy, and will have to be treated as such.

There is no opposition political party to fight meaningfully against the victory of American Communism.

Most of your relatives will be willing to betray you to the authorities.

No one in government at any level is your friend.

Nor, except in extraordinarily rare circumstances, is any clergy or any other member of churchianity.

Your dependency on government support, where applicable, is a monstrous vulnerability.

And most importantly, you really and truly don’t yet have enough ammo, food, medication, and hard-hearted friends to prevail against the Reds.

Tempus fugit.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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X-15  posted on  2018-11-17   22:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0)

You claiming you need a gun to protect yourself against the government is ludicrous

These people need to get a grasp of some true history to clear the air.

When the new Constitution was presented to the several states in 1789, some of them refused to sign without a Bill of Rights.

This then led to the first 10 Amendments. The first spells out our rights, and the second spells out how you protect those rights, with an armed populace. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-11-18   13:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3) (Edited)

You claiming you need a gun to protect yourself against the government is ludicrous

yeah. right. we weren't all born yesterday.

NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS

by Bill Dannemeyer ... U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

" Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law...."

www.spingola.com/Dannemeyer.html

The Noahide Law was cunningly passed under the guise of "Education and Sharing Day" in "honor" of the anniversary of the birth of the (deceased) Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, who many Jews consider(ed) the Messiah.

"...This year, for the first time, proclamations or the equivalent have been issued by the governors of all 50 states and the mayor of Washington, D.C., recognizing the day and what it stands for. Some 100 more city and local proclamations—from Alameda, Calif., to Tumwater, Wash., to El Paso, Texas—have been issued...."

https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/3985366/jewish/Trump-Meets-With- Rabbis-in-Oval-Office-Proclaims-Education-Day-2018.htm

Why Does the Government Need 30,000 Guillotines?

"...We already know that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased 2.2 billion rounds of ammunition to go with their purchase of 2700 armored personnel carriers. Do you realize that this is enough ammo to fight a war for about seven years and that there are enough DHS personnel carriers to allocate over 500 per state? Can you imagine if they were concentrated in their distribution patterns? This would be the equivalent of an invading army as DHS goes from house to house and seizes dissidents by the millions and America will soon have their own version of the French Revolution..."

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/why-does-the-government-need- guillotines/49069

https://thetruthsoldier.com/2013/02/22/why-does-the-us-government-need-30000- guillotines-and-over-600-million-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/

That's just one obvious example of why we need a gun to protect ourselves against the government.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2018-11-19   2:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

While the originators of the country via the Constitution felt it necessary to put the 2nd Amendment in writing to insure against tyranny in government, there are many other reasons to own "arms'. They also protect against others that might break into one's home and they're great investments.

It seems that many among us have lost their focus upon freedom and have been programmed to think of it as something the government provides when it is merely protected (allegedly) by the government.

Ephesians 5:11King James Version (KJV)

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "

The best thing about old age is that it doesn't last forever.

noone222  posted on  2018-11-19   5:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

They also protect against others that might break into one's home

Granted.

"If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder.

biblehub.com/exodus/22-2.htm

But to say the people have nothing to fear from this tyrannical government is just plain b.s., when this government has waged war against the people in the past :

Malice Toward All, Charity Toward None / War Crimes Against Southern Civilians

"Americans are forever proclaiming our boastful aspersions to the world . . . that our government was based on the consent of the people,” though in fact “it rests upon force, as much as any government that ever existed.”

~ Letter from Robert E. Lee to E.G.W. Butler, Oct. 11, 1867

"[H]ad the Confederates somehow won, had their victory put them in position to bring their chief opponents before some sort of tribunal, they would have found themselves justified . . . in stringing up President Lincoln and the entire Union high command for violation of the laws of war, specifically for waging war against noncombatants.”

~ Lee Kennett, Marching through Georgia: A Life of William Tecumseh Sherman,"

"... War Crimes Against Southern Civilians — that blows the lid off the conspiracy of silence about the violent, mass-murdering origins of the American Leviathan state (or "The New Birth of Freedom," as both left-wing and right- wing statists put it).

In the name of "restoring the union" the U.S. Army, under the micromanagement of Abraham Lincoln, waged war on its own people, shelling and burning entire cities populated only by civilians and engaging in acts of plunder, forced evacuation, and mass murder. It is all documented in gory detail by Mr. Cisco, who quotes conservative icon Richard M. Weaver in his introductory chapter as having remarked that "from the military policies of Sherman and Sheridan there lies but an easy step to total war of the Nazis, the greatest affront to Western civilization since its founding." ..."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2007/05/thomas-dilorenzo/malice-toward-all-charity- towards-none/

This government has been planning one final conflagration since the beginning, and is now circumventing the second amendment and is killing us with vaccinations [ freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=220263&Disp=0 ], etc., not to mention drowning us with geoengineered weather and burning us alive in our homes and our cars as we try to escape:

It’s War! California’s Geoengineered Firestorm Attacks by the Globalists Aimed Directly at the American People

stateofthenation2012.com/?p=108495

see all the links on the right side of the page before they take this site down

Death of the Phoenix, Final Act for the United States of America

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=220670&Disp=2#C2

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2018-11-19   10:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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