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Title: A $1,000 per month cash handout would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion, new study says
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URL Source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark ... 5pQ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
Published: Sep 2, 2017
Author: Catherine Clifford
Post Date: 2017-09-02 09:48:52 by BTP Holdings
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A $1,000 per month cash handout would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion, new study says

CNBC

Catherine Clifford

7 hrs ago

Giving every adult in the United States a $1000 cash handout per month would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion by 2025, according to a new study on universal basic income.

The report was released in August by the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute. Roosevelt research director Marshall Steinbaum, Michalis Nikiforos at Bard College's Levy Institute, and Gennaro Zezza at the University of Cassino and Southern Lazio in Italy co-authored the study.

The study made economic forecasts for three proposals: a full universal basic income in which every adult gets $1,000 a month ($12,000 a year), a partial basic income in which every adult gets $500 a month ($6,000 a year) and a child allowance in which parents get $250 a month ($3,000 a year).

The larger the universal basic income, the greater the benefit to the economy, according to the report.

A $1,000 cash handout to all adults would grow the economy by 12.56 percent after eight years, the study finds. Current Congressional Budget Office estimates put the GDP at $19.8 trillion. The cash handout would therefore increase the GDP by $2.48 trillion. (Vox first did this extrapolation in their coverage of the report, and Steinbaum confirmed the accuracy of the extrapolation to CNBC Make It by email.)

The $250 allowance would grow the GDP by 0.79 percent and a $500 a month payment would grow the GDP by 6.5 percent.

These estimates are based on a universal basic income paid for by increasing the federal deficit. As part of the study, the researchers also calculated the effect to the economy of paying for the cash handouts by increasing taxes. In that case, there were would be no net benefit to the economy, the report finds.

"When paying for the policy by increasing taxes on households rather than paying for the policy with debt, the policy is not expansionary," the report says. "In effect, it is giving to households with one hand what it is taking away with the other. There is no net effect."

The study is based on the Levy Macro-Economic model, which presupposes that the potential of the economy is constrained because household income is low. That opinion, even the authors of the study admit, is debatable. "Other macroeconomic models would disagree," the report says.

The idea of a universal basic income has been promoted lately by technology leaders and Silicon Valley billionaires.

Some, like Tesla (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, see cash handouts as a solution to the imminent threat of automation to the labor force. Musk has said that universal basic income will be a virtual necessity because robots will put so many low-skilled workers out of a job.

Others, like Facebook (FB) CEO Mark Zuckerberg, think handouts could give everyone the safety net necessary to think like an entrepreneur. Zuckerberg touts UBIas a way to ensure people are not afraid to take risks to pursue the projects and business ventures they are passionate about.

Y Combinator President and Silicon Valley heavyweight Sam Altman has launched an initiative to study the long-term effects on human behavior of getting a cash handout. The research is still in process.

Even as the idea of universal basic income is being studied by and discussed among the tech elite, the idea is a non-starter in the United States, according to some.

Robert Greenstein, the founder and President of the Washington D.C.-based think tank Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, called the notion too idealistic. "An effort to secure UBI would prove quixotic," he wrote in 2016. Greenstein says universal basic income is both too expensive and impossible to get through Washington D.C.

Greenstein offered one innovative alternative: "To be sure, there is a possible exception: a carbon tax that returns its proceeds to the public via a universal payment." But even that, he says, is more theoretical than realistic because he suggests that money reaped from a carbon tax would be better used to study alternative energy or to support those at the very bottom of the economy.

"If a carbon tax could pass, we might need to focus the proceeds available for these payments on low- and moderate-income families — so the payments would be adequate to offset the higher energy costs these families would face as a result of the tax — rather than extending the payments all the way up the income scale in universal fashion," Greenstein says.


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What is trying to be done here is to prime the pump and get some cash into the economy.

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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Lowering the capital gains tax and the income tax to 12.5% would be better and quicker, imo.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-09-02   10:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

Lowering the income tax

Eliminating the unlawful and corrupt federal income tax is the only way to boost the economy. And if you are afraid of the IRS then you need to re-evaluate your priorities. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-02   12:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)

As long as there's a Fed, there'll be an IRS.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-09-02   12:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

The report was released in August by the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute. Roosevelt research director Marshall Steinbaum, Michalis Nikiforos at Bard College's Levy Institute, and Gennaro Zezza at the University of Cassino and Southern Lazio in Italy co-authored the study.

Now there's a freakin' zoo if I've ever seen one.

I wonder what they feed these devils.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2017-09-02   12:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#3)

As long as there's a Fed, there'll be an IRS.

What the IRS does is to suck all the excess cash from the system. This tends to keep inflation under control, but it robs the people of their wealth. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-02   12:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#3)

Barack Obama's official biography in the original Harvard Law Review 1991 Year Book

alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2012/08/barack-obamas-official- biography-in.html

Tell us it ain't so Barack.

When the issue of Presidential eligibility is no longer acceptable, the U.S. Constitution ceases to be a meaningful document. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-02   12:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#4)

No jews among the Puritans.

Those stupid people said, "no work, no eat".

How dumb.

Cynicom  posted on  2017-09-02   12:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

As part of the study, the researchers also calculated the effect to the economy of paying for the cash handouts by increasing taxes. In that case, there were would be no net benefit to the economy, the report finds.

Gee. Let's increase taxes by $1000/month, and then give $1000 a month back to the people who paid it, and see what happens with the economy!

These guys are really smart!

Seriously, cutting spending is what needs to be done, but elected republicrats never want to do such a thing because the system is broken.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-09-02   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

Link shows bad, here.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-09-02   13:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#7)

Those stupid people said, "no work, no eat".

Straight from the Bible.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-09-02   13:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Giving every adult in the United States a $1000 cash handout per month would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion by 2025, according to a new study on universal basic income.

Seriously? Anybody that has ever worked and paid taxes for even one year knows better than that. The money HAS to come from somewhere,and that somewhere is either out of the taxes of the people already working,or it is just printed with nothing to back it up and only worth the price of the special paper.

Not to mention what that would do to inflation.

The report was released in August by the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute. Roosevelt research director Marshall Steinbaum, Michalis Nikiforos at Bard College's Levy Institute, and Gennaro Zezza at the University of Cassino and Southern Lazio in Italy co-authored the study.

A bunch of pandered communists that have never had an actual real job OR an original thought in their entire lives.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-02   18:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#1)

Lowering the capital gains tax and the income tax to 12.5% would be better and quicker, imo.

Where would all the money come from this year to pay for next years welfare parasites?

The DNC uses tax money to buy votes,so there is no way in hell they are ever going to agree to that.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-02   18:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#12)

The DNC uses tax money to buy votes

And after Billary's humiliating defeat last year it just may come to pass there will no longer be a DNC for the rest of us to contend with. The Democrat Party is a shambles, and a mere ghost of its former self. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-02   21:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#11)

Not to mention what that would do to inflation.

Besides, it would reverse all of the damage done by those parasites at the IRS after they have sucked all of the excess cash from circulation in an attempt to keep inflation under control.

I still think the economy could use a shot in the arm that a cash handout would accomplish. At least people would have some money to spend to get things moving. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-02   21:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#13)

And after Billary's humiliating defeat last year it just may come to pass there will no longer be a DNC for the rest of us to contend with. The Democrat Party is a shambles, and a mere ghost of its former self. ;)

That won't stop them. The DNC is just the name of the bus they were riding on because it was headed in a straight line to where they wanted to go. They will leave her like the whore she is and move on to take control of whatever replaces the DNC.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-02   22:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#14)

I still think the economy could use a shot in the arm that a cash handout would accomplish.

Not a chance. It's not real money. It's money BORROWED from the international bankers who are planning on taking over the world,and any money borrowed from them HAS to be paid back by raising taxes on workers.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-02   22:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

If we gave everyone a 200' yacht they would have to spend $50,000 a month on fuel, upkeep, and crew. Think of all the jobs that would create!

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2017-09-03   0:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#16)

It's not real money. It's money BORROWED from the international bankers who are planning on taking over the world,and any money borrowed from them HAS to be paid back by raising taxes on workers.

You forget one most important aspect of the whole situation. We, the people, have the guns. And we can do anything we want with the corrupt banksters and even the corrupt government. 10,000 armed citizens could descend on the District of Criminals and really ruin their day. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   8:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#17)

If we gave everyone a 200' yacht they would have to spend $50,000 a month on fuel, upkeep, and crew.

But are there that many sailors out there to man those yachts? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   8:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dakmar (#17) (Edited)

If we gave everyone a 200' yacht they would have to spend $50,000 a month on fuel, upkeep, and crew. Think of all the jobs that would create!

Good point!

I think this whole effort should start with section 8 housing blocks fo de po going up in places like Martha's Vineyard,Silicon Valley,and the other enclaves of the uber rich left. For example,I am sure there are tens of thousand of thugs in NYC that could benefit from living in nearby Connecticut,where the people who shape and control their city live.

Come to think of it,why can't NYC condemn property on the upper east side of Manhattan and convert some of those high-rises over to section 8 part-mints?

Just think about what an inspiring example it would be to the urban downtrodden youts to look out the window of their squats to see the upper classes being driven past them in their chauffeured limos,and to have their offsprung going to the same schools as little Tiffany and Jacob! If there is one thing in the world the Hebrew Private Schools need to properly educate their students,is to have them in the same classrooms as little Lyckit,Mohammeded MoFO,Ti-roan,etc,etc,etc.

Think of it as two-way cultural enlightenment.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-03   12:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BTP Holdings (#18)

We, the people, have the guns.

Yes,but what we DON'T have is control over the courts and the badges.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-03   12:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

If we gave everyone a 200' yacht they would have to spend $50,000 a month on fuel, upkeep, and crew.

But are there that many sailors out there to man those yachts? ;)

Yew doan be need-in no damn sailors to par-tie in de harbur,James!

Sides,who bees want-in all doze crackas hanging roand,anyhow?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-03   12:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#21)

Yes,but what we DON'T have is control over the courts and the badges.

My boss says that people have lost their courage and will not fight if push comes to shove. I don't think that is correct.

I was talking with an old boy out here at local Wal Mart a few years back. I told him, "Obama wants the U.N. to control our guns."

He said, "We'll never give up our guns. That's the way we are."

There's a lot of them out there just like that. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   16:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#7)

No jews among the Puritans.

Those stupid people said, "no work, no eat".

How dumb.

But Cyni, aren't you too olde to work? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   17:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#21)

but what we DON'T have is control over the courts and the badges.

It will not be like in NYC a few years back when the cops were pepper spraying docile demonstrators. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   17:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#9)

Link shows bad, here.

Try this. Copy and paste.

http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2012/08/barack-obamas-official-biography- in.html

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2017-09-03   17:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#20)

Good Samaritan landlord has home trashed by homeless family she took in

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2017-09-04   11:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#27)

Good Samaritan landlord has home trashed by homeless family she took in

WOW! Who could have seen THAT coming???? (extreme sarcasm)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-09-04   14:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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