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Title: Cheney Shotgun Ballistics Don't Match Up
Source: prisonplanet.com
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/150206matchup.htm
Published: Feb 15, 2006
Author: Alex Jones
Post Date: 2006-02-15 22:35:37 by Coral Snake
Keywords: Ballistics, Shotgun, Cheney
Views: 2769
Comments: 53

Cheney Shotgun Ballistics Don't Match Up

Alex Jones/Prison http://Planet.com | February 15 2006

What we had deducted almost immediately after Cheney machine began rolling on this shooting is now finally starting to filter out into the rest of the media: It is not only unlikely that Whittington was injured in the way he reportedly was if Cheney had shot him from 30 yards it is impossible.

After reviewing the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife report on the shooting, there is no doubt that this is a cover-up.

The pattern of the birdshot depicted in the diagram on the report indicates about a foot spread from cheek to chest.

As we previously reported, birdshot is not like a traditional bullet. Birdshot is composed of hundreds of tiny lead BB's with very low mass which are designed to spread out and slow down very quickly. The idea is basically to shoot out a bunch of tiny pellets to catch a bird that may be taking wing at the instant it recognizes the shot has been fired. Many points ensure greater likelyhood of hitting the target.

These pellets are incredibly tiny and the further they get away from the gun, the slower and less forceful they become. So at a distance of about 90 feet (or 30 yards as reported by the White House) the pellets would have hit Whittington with the force equivilent to a gentle shove and have left maybe some tiny surface marks on any exposed skin.

The only way to account for the pattern indicated on the TDPW report is if Cheney was about 10 feet away from Whittington when he shot him.

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Reports and press releases that followed the event explained that some of the pellets had become lodged in his heart tissue. The only way this is possible, the only way that the tiny pellets designed to spread over distance could have maintained the force necessary to penetrate Whittington's hunting vest, clothing, skin, muscle, bone and finally into his rock-hard heart would have been if they came from a much shorter distance than the White House is claiming.

The initial reports have Whittington making jokes and feeling fine after the shooting, but doctors would have been able to diagnose with a simple x-ray that there was a chunk of metal in his heart tissue immediately upon receiving him. Now that he has taken a turn for the worse, they are in scramble-mode to cover-up what really happened in case he dies.

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#16. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Just the time delay on the report is "obstruction of justice."

Here's the catch - when did the hospital report the shooting? (Or, did they?)

Was the hospital in the same county?

How did they get an ambulance, without a 9-11 call, identifying the problem to a wide range of police authorities?

Why didn't the State authorities get into the scene?

There's a lot wrong in this picture - including making false statements.

BUT - will anyone care?

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-02-16   10:59:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SKYDRIFTER (#16)

Maybe they'll care if they see a pattern of arrogance that willfully ignores the Constitution. Like this Executive Order that Cheney's claims gives him the right to declassify info mentioned on a thread today. And the "Shoot First" mentality that got us in the mess called the Iraq War.

robin  posted on  2006-02-16   11:04:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#18)

The jury is still out, but to get a pellet through clothing into a persons heart is a lot closer than 90 feet, in my book.

If you just go to the grouping of the bird-shot, how do you hit someone, who is not quite clearly in your vision. He saw a small bird, but didn't see the person???

For ANY shotgun, that's a small grouping, suggesting close range.

It stinks - as usual.

Calling Gorner and Grissom!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-02-16   11:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SKYDRIFTER (#25)

I just don't see how he could have missed Whittington - just as you say. He hit him dead on. It's not like Harry got the tail end of a pellet or two - he got the full load square on. This is either incredible recklessness (negligence at the least) or he deliberately shot him for some reason. I can't see it any other way. Even when I tried simulating this just by wheeling around (and like Cheney I'm not in great condition so it's not like either of us turns around so quickly you can't see someone standing 30 yards in back of you). It's just not plausible.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-16   11:27:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mehitable.christine.everyone here (#27)

I will be going to the range to conduct my own little test today using a superposed Browning Citori, 26" barrels, 2 3/4" chambers, and using the most loaded-up 7 1/2 shotshells that I can find in 28 gauge. Several manufacturers have recently introduced a magnum chamber for this gauge, but I've no idea if this was what the veep was using, or not.

Shots will be made at ten, twenty, and thirty yards at a full-size silhouette target to see the shot dispersal, but this will tell us nothing about the penetrating power of the shot.

Lod  posted on  2006-02-16   11:43:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lodwick (#29)

I will be going to the range to conduct my own little test today using a superposed Browning Citori, 26" barrels, 2 3/4" chambers, and using the most loaded-up 7 1/2 shotshells that I can find in 28 gauge. Several manufacturers have recently introduced a magnum chamber for this gauge, but I've no idea if this was what the veep was using, or not.

Shots will be made at ten, twenty, and thirty yards at a full-size silhouette target to see the shot dispersal, but this will tell us nothing about the penetrating power of the shot.

Have fun! I think you should repeat with one beer, then two, ...

robin  posted on  2006-02-16   12:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin, lodwick (#33)

Yeah, and make sure you have a hot blonde and cold gun....

cars, guns, and ho's....it's the gangsta life for Cheney.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-16   12:03:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: mehitable.christine.everyone here (#35)

Crapolla.

Our indoor range doesn't allow shot to be fired: they told me that it really screws up the pulleys, etc that move the targets from the shooter's station to whatever distance you wish to blast.

Luckily, I took another piece and had a good time practicing with it.

On the way home, I heard Alex Jones' outstanding report of his experiment this morning. Sounds like big dick's story is indeed full of holes.

What else would be new with this regime?

Lod  posted on  2006-02-16 13:47:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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