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Title: WTF? 4um spooks: Federal Reserve Bank among those snooping around freedom4um.com. Send them a message here.
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Published: Jan 26, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-01-26 16:49:16 by Artisan
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WTF? The federal reserve bank is lurking on freedom4um.com. in the past few days ive had many police agencies and feds, cities, and courts across the country visit my site, particularly the articles about guns & the gun ban. It's hard to keep up on all of them but below are a few of the screenshots. But there is one in particular I thought would be of interest to you because the federal reserve bank actually visited via this 4UM page. (I use the great free site statcounter.com to gauge traffic). (Disclaimer: Please note that I have no access to freedom4um visitors, but rather only visitors to my own website which is how I saw that the FedReservebank clicked on my site VIA 4um. The only visitors i ever publicize/mock are pigs and feds, politicians, cites, govts, etc. I dont know if the owners of this site track their visitors.)

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK: NOTE THE FRB.ORG ISP.
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK:

UNITED STATES SENATE:

US DEPT OF JUSTICE:

DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY:

NYPD:
Also, from Police & Feds feverishly surveilling gun-confiscation opponents on internet (1/14/13)

Below are some screen shots of their visits. Aside from the man-hours and cost of having government slugs search and surveil millions of websites and opinions posted on the internet, one must ask what do they intend to do with the information. Does this have anything to do with the over one billion rounds of anti-personnel "hollow point" ammunition which the government has recently stockpiled? [See also DHS To Purchase Another 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo (8/13/12) and DHS Purchases 200 million more rounds of ammunition (9/18/12).]

CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL:

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE:

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY:

Navy Network Information Center (nnic

MORE:

On this, the NNIC is reading comments from posters at a gun forum.

On this, they were referred from WhatReallyHappened.com (14 images)
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#1. To: Artisan (#0)
Another reason to support Kim Dotcom and Mega to whatever extent possible as he battles this fascist regime to keep the internet free, open, and secure.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-01-26 16:57:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)
I tried the frb.org and the dotted quads for the FED and DOJ and got no response.
Anonymous will have to take over from there, I'm no hacker.

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
hondo68 posted on 2013-01-26 17:09:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Artisan (#0)
This comes as no surprise. Can't blame them for wanting to know what they're up against.
Don't blame me. I didn't vote.
Obnoxicated posted on 2013-01-26 17:11:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Artisan (#0)
Dear federal people
Stop wasting your time and our money. Quit your job and do something meaningful with your life. Fight oppression. Resist tyranny. Stand up for what is right, do the right thing. Follow the constitution. Point out those you feel in violation of the constitution. Use your freespeech to talk about it. Be unafraid to speak about what things you see, especially the wrong things. You must stand against tyranny.
regards, titorite
___FIRE
titorite posted on 2013-01-26 17:18:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: titorite (#4)
Dear federal/feral people
End the tyranny so we don't have to end you.
We the people.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-01-26 17:22:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: FedGov (#0)
Dear FedGov scum,
Your wives and children live in our neighborhoods and their lives will be snuffed out if FedGov makes even one dirty move against The People.
Rgds,
We, The People
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2013-01-26 17:30:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Artisan (#0)
I think what is most likely is that random drones in these various govt agencies are stealing a little time to go surfing on the internet, and, for all I know, these individuals are on your side.

Shoonra posted on 2013-01-26 18:09:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Shoonra (#7)
Very possible. Who's "side" are you on? :)
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-26 18:16:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: wudidiz (#8)
Israel's of course.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2013-01-26 18:22:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: wudidiz (#8)
I think what is most likely is that random drones in these various govt agencies are stealing a little time to go surfing on the internet, and, for all I know, these individuals are on your side.

Why is this goverment op still posting on this site? "for all I know, these individuals are on your side." Your side? I aready know who she/he or it side. It smells to high heavens.

john stadtmiller posted on 2013-01-26 19:04:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: john stadtmiller, 4 (#10)
The real question is why hasn't everyone here bozo'ed the clown?
Just a thought.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-01-26 19:13:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: john stadtmiller (#10)
Why is this goverment op still posting on this site?

For entertainment purposes only.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-26 19:14:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Shoonra (#7)
I think what is most likely is that random drones in these various govt agencies are stealing a little time to go surfing on the internet, and, for all I know, these individuals are on your side.

I think you are right. The fed is too big to care about 4um. Heck the fed is too big to care about even the US government. They rule and they know it.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-26 19:38:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Shoonra (#7)
Shoonra:
I know I will pay for this comment but do want to commend you for suggesting that possibility.
To anyone who cares:
Several years back, when I realized that nothing was hidden anymore from prying eyes, I made the choice, rather than try to hide, let these spooks see it all with the intent of helping open their eyes.
I imagine the stuff they are told about us is rather easy to believe when they read some forums full of foulness, outright paranoia, threats to their families, ect.
I challenge the brightest of posters to help educate the spooks. Find solid, verifiable things to post. Show them you have a brain, if you do. If there are some trapped in a sucky job, borderline sympathetic to the cause of freedom, help them see the light.
Just like at the demonstrations in the streets, there are provacteurs out here, working folks into a lather on forums and in comments sections on news sites, getting them to froth and help 'prove' the case for the arsholes who want us to shut up.
my 2 cents worth

Only dead fish go with the flow

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off

~my place to rant
Amandil posted on 2013-01-26 19:41:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Amandil (#14)
good comments, Amandil

christine posted on 2013-01-26 19:51:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: christine, Amandil (#15)
good comments, Amandil

Indeed they were.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-01-26 20:18:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: christine (#15)
You agree with Shoonra that the banksters, feds and pigs are on our side? Yikes.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-01-26 20:36:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Artisan (#17)
Where did she say any such thing?

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-01-26 20:40:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Artisan, Amandil, christine (#17)
To anyone who cares

That includes you.

I challenge the brightest of posters

You again.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-26 20:54:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: James Deffenbach, christine (#16)
~ it's a bit of a shot in the arm for my attitude to see a positive response to my opine up there ... have grown accustomed to flaming attacks for such comments

Only dead fish go with the flow

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off

~my place to rant
Amandil posted on 2013-01-26 21:10:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#18)
Amandil agreed with shoonra's post alleging that the spooks are 'on my side', and she thumbed up the comments. i dont think the cops or spooks are on our side, sorry. at least i know from experience that they are definitely not on my side, for sure. at all.
The psycho feds & cops are swarming all over all sorts of forums and message boards to see who is going to oppose the gun ban, and they are IDing them all. you can bet on it.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-01-26 21:25:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: X-15 (#6)
short, succinct, & well said, thanks.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-01-26 21:25:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Artisan (#21)
I would never suggest they are all on our side - I suggest there are some within their ranks who are and some who may be borderline sympathetic. If all they find is frothy paranoia, it does not help us one bit.

Only dead fish go with the flow

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off

~my place to rant
Amandil posted on 2013-01-26 21:29:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Amandil, f.a. hayek fan, james deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#14)
you know what happens to ~~morons~~ naive well-intentioned people who trust pig feds & cops and who try to convice them to join the good side? they are set up like suckers and charged with terrorism.

This happened to a guy i know a few years ago. He was one of those oathkeeper supporters and he was such a sweetheart to cops. he tried to reason with them and give them constitutional leaflets. they responded by lying about him and saying he threatened to kill them. he was then immediately arrested and literally charged with terrorism. while on bail he was on alex jones program to dscuss his case.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-01-26 21:30:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Artisan (#21)
i dont think the cops or spooks are on our side, sorry. at least i know from experience that they are definitely not on my side, for sure. at all.

Oh, neither do I. And I don't believe Christine thinks they are (but I don't speak for others).

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust
James Deffenbach posted on 2013-01-26 21:38:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Artisan (#24)
I don't trust any human from any walk of life with a broad brush like that and none of us suggested such a thing ... fun tactic though ... glad a few thoughtful posts got in first ...

Only dead fish go with the flow

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off

~my place to rant
Amandil posted on 2013-01-26 21:53:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Artisan (#0)
Well Good! I WANT to have my voice heard out. I know that there are people within our government that actually desire to hear the voices of the people but are told by the powers that be that we little people have no opinion. Not everybody working in government is our enemy. I'm hoping that when they read this forum they will realize that the citizenry is well equipped with knowledge and knowledge is power baby.

purplerose posted on 2013-01-26 22:06:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Artisan (#24)
This happened to a guy i know a few years ago. He was one of those oathkeeper supporters and he was such a sweetheart to cops. he tried to reason with them and give them constitutional leaflets. they responded by lying about him and saying he threatened to kill them. he was then immediately arrested and literally charged with terrorism. while on bail he was on alex jones program to dscuss his case.

I'm sorry that happened to your friend but he can serve as an example to those who want to befriend LEO's. They are not your friend and have no desire to be your friend. They look at us as the enemy because to them we are nothing more than criminals who haven't been caught. They likely looked at his actions as subversive and dangerous to the country.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2013-01-26 22:17:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: RickyJ (#13) (Edited)
The fed is too big to care about 4um

Not if it is linked to Republicbroadcasting.org As it most assuredly is. Shoonra knows this of course.

john stadtmiller posted on 2013-01-26 22:29:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: purplerose (#27)
Somehow the phrase "casting pearls before swine" comes to mind.

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
hondo68 posted on 2013-01-26 22:43:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: john stadtmiller (#29)
Not if it is linked to Republicbroadcasting.org As it most assuredly is.

What's the market share of listeners?

scrapper2 posted on 2013-01-26 23:31:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: hondo68 (#30)
You are correct, honda68.

purplerose posted on 2013-01-27 0:08:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Artisan (#22)
I don't want the FedGov scum to respect The People, I want them to fear what The People are capable of doing to their families. I've long since abandoned the thought of appealing to any remaining human decency amongst the FedGov swine, they and their families deserve a last meal consisting of hot lead for their ongoing participation in destroying our Freedom. To hell with all of them.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2013-01-27 0:08:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Amandil (#14)
Show them you have a brain, if you do.

Why would I want to reveal such information for free?
You sound just like Dan Quayle with that statement. I honestly thought there was only one Dan Quayle.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-27 2:58:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: purplerose (#27)
Well Good! I WANT to have my voice heard out. I know that there are people within our government that actually desire to hear the voices of the people but are told by the powers that be that we little people have no opinion. Not everybody working in government is our enemy. I'm hoping that when they read this forum they will realize that the citizenry is well equipped with knowledge and knowledge is power baby.

The Federal Reserve is not really part of our government. They are a semi-private banking cartel that controls this nation. Oh, for you Fed Reserve guys that might be reading this, I am only one of millions that know this. The cat is kind of out of the bag now and there will be no putting it back.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-27 3:13:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: RickyJ, everyone else (#13) (Edited)
I think you are right. The fed is too big to care about 4um. Heck the fed is too big to care about even the US government. They rule and they know it.

You think Shoonra is correct. That the fed is too big to care about the forum...
Despite the evidence present in the OP
That is double think. It is right in front of your face on the same screen I am viewing and on the same screen everyone else is viewing and despite the big elephant in the OP you would say it is not there and their is nothing to worry about.
I mean it is what this thread is about ! The evidence that we are being monitored and you wanna peddle some lying BS that we are not being watched DESPITE THE EVIDENCE IN THE ORIGINAL FUCKING POST!!!!!!!

..................
Let none be lead astray by your doublespeak.
___FIRE
titorite posted on 2013-01-27 5:34:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Artisan (#17)
how on earth did you get impression? you know me better than that.

christine posted on 2013-01-27 11:13:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Artisan, Amandil (#37)
for all I know, these individuals are on your side.

Shoonra suggested that whoever has visited 4um from FR may in fact be ONE INDIVIDUAL who might agree or be on our side as far as his ideology regarding the FR. that is a possibility. we can't say that everyone who works for the fedgov is ideologically onboard with its whole agenda.
that's a reasonable thought process, isn't it?

christine posted on 2013-01-27 11:18:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Amandil (#23)
I would never suggest they are all on our side - I suggest there are some within their ranks who are and some who may be borderline sympathetic. If all they find is frothy paranoia, it does not help us one bit.

i agree. same could be said of military.

christine posted on 2013-01-27 11:21:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: christine (#38)
Totally reasonable.
I hope that hundreds of thousands remain with fedgov to be able to feed their families, and not because they support the agenda.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-01-27 11:22:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: christine (#37)
sorry, i guess i have an aversion to agreeing w/ the likes of shoonra to any degree.If someone worked for the FR & yet liked a site like this theyd have to be some sort of literal psycho. I cant imagine it.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2013-01-27 22:10:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Artisan, christine (#41)
Since it's her party-barn, she has to entertain all the guests.
On the other hand, her guests don't have to endure reprehensibles who enter.
Bozo now.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2013-01-27 22:18:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: christine (#38) (Edited)
Shoonra suggested that whoever has visited 4um from FR may in fact be ONE INDIVIDUAL who might agree or be on our side as far as his ideology regarding the FR. that is a possibility. we can't say that everyone who works for the fedgov is ideologically onboard with its whole agenda.
that's a reasonable thought process, isn't it?

It is a very reasonable assumption Christine, and more than likely the correct one. If the Fed really wanted to spy on forums they would pay people to do it from other IP addresses than their own. This very well could be a security guard or office employee surfing the net in their spare time, or possibly during work hours.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-28 0:05:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: titorite (#36) (Edited)
You think Shoonra is correct.

This time I think so. I have little doubt that this site is being monitored, but not from an frb.org IP address. The evidence points to you and and GL as the prime suspects. Shoonra is a possibility, but still posts more common sense than you and GL combined.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-28 0:18:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: RickyJ (#44)
This time I think so. I have little doubt that this site is being monitored, but not from an frb.org IP address.

It is in the OP

Artisan is no liar!

Fuck you ricky.
___FIRE
titorite posted on 2013-01-28 0:58:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: RickyJ (#44)
The evidence points to

you're nuts.
Oh yeah, anyone peddling crazy conspiracy theories must be an undercover agent.
Go get em, Ricky.
"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz posted on 2013-01-28 3:40:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: RickyJ (#44)
I have little doubt that this site is being monitored, but not from an frb.org IP address. The evidence points to you and and GL as the prime suspects. Shoonra is a possibility, but still posts more common sense than you and GL combined.

Oh look. Another slinking hit-piece from Ricky that he didn't ping me to. Your post is evidence that you should learn how to agree to disagree like an adult.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2013-01-28 15:44:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: Artisan (#41)
as much as I disdain and distrust certain agencies, I'm not going to say that everyone who works for them is evil because I don't believe it. for example, I know some members of the APD who aren't in the least bit tyrannical and a few folks who work for the IRS that are decent ordinary people. I could say the same for TSA employees. while I loathe the agenda, I have to say that I have never been treated badly by any of them in any airport I've been in. in fact, they have been very polite and respectful and, in a few cases, actually accommodating.

christine posted on 2013-01-28 19:51:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: RickyJ (#44)
The evidence points to you and and GL as the prime suspects.

I haven't seen any evidence of that, Ricky.

christine posted on 2013-01-28 19:53:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: titorite (#45)
This time I think so. I have little doubt that this site is being monitored, but not from an frb.org IP address.
It is in the OP
Artisan is no liar!

I am not saying he is a liar, and you know I am not saying that, you are just trying to stir up trouble. Most people can see what you are trying to do here.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2013-01-30 23:16:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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