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Title: Were real persons murdered on 9/11?
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URL Source: http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/238774.html
Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: Stewart Ogilby, Veterans Today
Post Date: 2012-04-30 05:52:17 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 167
Comments: 8

The question is an absurd one except to those of us who have spent part of our lives exploring contradictions and mysteries posed by official narratives regarding events of that world-changing day. Increasingly, the question is becoming, “How many real persons died as a result of alleged events that occurred in connection with the destruction of buildings in New York City’s World Trade Center Complex on September 11, 2001?”

A logical tentative answer is provided by Mr. Simon Shack, the brilliant creator of SeptemberClues.info website and supported by members of his CluesForum.info, two online resources that call into serious question reports of that day’s victims.

Shack’s sites initially postulated all alleged victims to be computer created fakes who never existed, based on absurdities of photoshopped and digitally morphed memorial images. Proofs presented on their Vicsim Report <>septemberclues.info/vicsims/9-11-9%20the%20Vicsim%20Report.pdf> are overwhelmingly convincing when one takes sufficient time to carefully review its eighty pages.

However, a few high profile “victims” such as Barbara Olson, Tom Burnett, David Angell, and Father Judge, out of nearly 3,000 “victims” appear to lay credible claim to having had lives prior to 9/11. Of course, this does not prove they died that day. Two possible ruses exist: Their “personae” may have been created by agents, or their

complicity may have been bought and they are living under witness-protection type programs.

It should be apparent that illustrating even a few fake victims impunes the veracity of the 9/11 narrative itself and implicates media insiders as conspiring perpetrators and criminal accomplices in promoting and waging aggressive murderous warfare. We who have spent considerable time on this subject facetiously muse, “So, what else is new?”

The subject of Shack’s Vicsims, or what I prefer to call “datafakes” should be the final hoax exposed, following the spontaneous collapsing buildings hoax and the hijacked airliners hoax. It may conveniently become, thanks largely to Mr. Shack, the easiest to document. To spend time investigating every one of nearly 3,000 units is unnecessary. Research effort can be suspended once sufficient to conclude that widespread mendacity is involved.

Based on continuing online activity in victimology, memorialization and activities of spurious “truthers”, it is fair to assume that evil ones have worked diligently over the past decade to firm up paper trails of phony victims. Those intent on exposing the victims hoax might well focus on finding and documenting alleged surviving family members. Rather than spend too much time on victims hoax minutae let’s go directly to the key issue posed by the 911 media hoax.

The key issue is exposure of 9/11 perpetrators and what steps need be taken to effectively remove those criminals from positions of power in our country.

Knowledge without action is politically unacceptable. Unfortunately, our masses have no understanding that politics is an important branch of philosophy according to Aristotle. They have been brainwashed into simplistic and largely meaningless partisanship squabbles.

Exposing Americans to the financially ruinous, murderous, and dishonest trick played upon them on 9/11 that took advantage of their human decency and their compassion for phony victims may become the key that unlocks petty partisanship and provides energy for major political change in our nation.

IM/KK

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0) (Edited)

Yes.

If one person dies then yes.

The notion of the thread title is too far out there.

I went to NY before the fall..... saw the big buildings...

They had asbestos in them... people are still dying... all the rescue dogs died first..... asbestos.

Real people did in fact die one the day of september eleventh two thousand and one.

Explosions , matter falling on top of other humans.... humans running each other over to get away from the falling buildings.....

YES REAL PEOPLE DID DIE THAT DAY!!!!

NOT JUST PERSONAS....

Maybe not the youtube people your article mentions..... but real life is made up of more than youtubers. Judge, olsen..., the rest... propaganda is one thing.... the unknown never unmasked masses are another thing entirely.

God I wonder about you tartar......

ever avoid yahoo/google/mainstream for 30 days strait?


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-04-30   6:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: titorite, *No Planers*, *9-11*, *Out There* (#1)

septemberclues.info/vicsi...the%20Vicsim%20Report.pdf


"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-04-30   7:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite, Tatarewicz, 4 (#1)

Don't blame the poster for the website.

If it informs us, or makes us think outside the cage, I welcome the post.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-04-30   7:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#3)

Good and welcome riposte !

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." Lod

Bub  posted on  2012-04-30   8:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#1)

You ok tit? You seem to have come unhinged since Trayvon got hisself killed.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-04-30   9:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

This sort of theory shows serious flaws.

The people inside the plane were fakes because the govt (or somebody) was too squeamish about killing the passengers .... but the three thousand inside the WTC were real because whoever was too finicky to kill 120 passengers had no qualms about killing 3000 people in the buildings!?!

It's been more than ten years and not a scrap of evidence that any one of the passengers survived. Although only a handful of passengers may have been famous, nearly all of them left very solid evidence of having been born, schooled, graduated, married, employed, etc. Many of them had important jobs, families they loved, cars/boats/hobbies they enjoyed, etc., they wouldn't go into hiding and give up all that.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-04-30   11:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Were real persons murdered on 9/11?

According to Jews, very few, since the vast majority of them were non-Jews, thus animals according to their religion.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-05-03   14:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

You ok tit? You seem to have come unhinged since Trayvon got hisself killed.

He is brainwashed about that. No sense talking to him about it, he thinks he knows it all.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-05-03   14:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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